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Matty900 |
Feb 12 2016, 12:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Ok newbe question need some advice. Have some rest in the hell hole area. Looking for recommendations do I just start cutting this out? I was looking for replacement metal to weld in any recommendations? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)
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veekry9 |
Feb 12 2016, 01:53 AM
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OldMember Group: Retired Members Posts: 3,068 Joined: 17-June 13 From: TO Member No.: 16,025 Region Association: Canada |
Well,the former rust spots and now holes have made the metal paper thin and useless.
At this early stage of FeO,the effort won't be too great,relatively speaking. Access,the engine is in the way of the repairs to be made,physically extremely difficult to make otherwise. So, the engine and trans axle must be lowered,a one hour affair. (I see now on your other repair thd you've done that). The front bottom area of your firewall must also be inspected for corrosion.(the pix look like you have a nice set of longs) The purchase of a video borescope will allow you to inspect the interior of the chassis's tubular members. The removal of debris,dust and rust powder will allow the treatment by neutralizer spray paint. Clean, and clean again, cut, match, weld, prep, clean, paint. repeat. Without the expertise of experience,all of this is a learning curve. When you make a mistake,and things get ugly,start over. First,try to patch repair a rusted scrap fender to an acceptable finish. Then,use that experience to unhole your 914. http://www.eastwood.com/blog/eastwood-chat...h-rear-quarter/ http://www.metalshapers.org/tips/white/his...-auto-aluminum/ http://guildautorestore.com/ Plain to see,some men have more experience and talent than others. https://www.google.ca/search?q=aluminum+aut...+panel+patching / |
somd914 |
Feb 12 2016, 04:44 AM
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BeatNavy |
Feb 12 2016, 05:11 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,921 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think Resto primarily sells the just the major pieces (I have several of them). If you're looking to replace only the minimum amount of metal, fab it yourself or there's this: Maddog Hell Hole Repair Kit.
Problem is, there's likely to be more rot at this point inside the longs. Are the rockers off and have you looked at the points underneath? If you don't think you have major problems there then count yourself lucky and start planning how and where to cut just around that spot. You may want to do some searching here on the site. There are lots of previous examples of people repairing this area and also doing major work on the longs, which requires other considerations (like bracing the frame). Here's one example focused on just the Hell Hole: Hell Hole Repair. |
mepstein |
Feb 12 2016, 06:52 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I think Resto primarily sells the just the major pieces (I have several of them). If you're looking to replace only the minimum amount of metal, fab it yourself or there's this: Maddog Hell Hole Repair Kit. Problem is, there's likely to be more rot at this point inside the longs. Are the rockers off and have you looked at the points underneath? If you don't think you have major problems there then count yourself lucky and start planning how and where to cut just around that spot. You may want to do some searching here on the site. There are lots of previous examples of people repairing this area and also doing major work on the longs, which requires other considerations (like bracing the frame). Here's one example focused on just the Hell Hole: Hell Hole Repair. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) get under the car and see what the damage is. It's like an iceberg. The majority lies below. |
cary |
Feb 12 2016, 09:14 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Matty900 |
Feb 12 2016, 10:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,269 Joined: 21-February 15 From: Oregon Member No.: 18,454 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I think Resto primarily sells the just the major pieces (I have several of them). If you're looking to replace only the minimum amount of metal, fab it yourself or there's this: Maddog Hell Hole Repair Kit. Problem is, there's likely to be more rot at this point inside the longs. Are the rockers off and have you looked at the points underneath? If you don't think you have major problems there then count yourself lucky and start planning how and where to cut just around that spot. You may want to do some searching here on the site. There are lots of previous examples of people repairing this area and also doing major work on the longs, which requires other considerations (like bracing the frame). Here's one example focused on just the Hell Hole: Hell Hole Repair. Thank you, I have a thread about the car as a barn find but started a new one about this question. It does look good under the rocker pannels. I was looking to see if there is a pretty fabricated part that can get welded in or if it was patch work. I just want to try and restore it as accurately as possible. Attached thumbnail(s) |
Mikey914 |
Feb 12 2016, 10:41 AM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,625 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Matt Pull the rockers so you can see what you dealing with.
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BeatNavy |
Feb 12 2016, 10:43 AM
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Certified Professional Scapegoat Group: Members Posts: 2,921 Joined: 26-February 14 From: Easton, MD Member No.: 17,042 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That Mad Dog kit is, IIRC, the closest thing to a "pretty" fabricated part. But it's not hard to do something similar yourself. Whether it turns out pretty is going to be dependent on how well you weld, clean up your welds, and paint/finish it up. Good luck!
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r_towle |
Feb 12 2016, 03:33 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,501 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States |
home depot sells sheets of 18 gauge and 20 gauge.
the car is 19 gauge. Once you are done trying to get every tool you own in there, you will understand that name hellhole. rich |
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