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> What type of plugs you guys running?, other than the Bosch supers.....
dlo914
post Mar 21 2005, 03:15 PM
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im just curious to see if anyone running like the Bosch Platinum +2 or +4 actually felt a difference. Other than that i would assume NGK plugs would also work. Well for most things i already know the 2 or 4 pronged plugs dont get 4 sparks, but it just provides the spark more options to spark to. But i just want first hand experience of others using different plugs, before i purchased a new set of plugs....so bring on the plug info.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif) o and do these plugs actually increase gas mileage?
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:17 PM
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I run NGK plugs in mine, Bosch plugs have never worked well for me. Just my opinion.
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:20 PM
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BIG NGK fan here - have been since working in the imported car parts business years ago.....BP6ES in the 914, B7EV in the 911 and BP5ES in the 308.
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:30 PM
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NGK BP6ES here. The 2/4/6/8/infinite electrode plugs are a gimmick IMHO. Also avoid platinum plugs that have a teeny tiny center electrode, they are apparently easy to foul (or so I am told).
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:35 PM
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I run Split-Fire plugs in the teener (don't drive it enough to notice any difference) and in my big block Suburban. Years ago, I changed to Split-Fire plugs in my (TBI) big block dually and picked up almost 1/2 mpg! When you are getting only about 10 mpg, that's a BIG improvement and so I've stuck with them; can't tell if they make that much of a difference with the (MPI) 'burb, 'cause my tires are a bit taller than stock and haven't modified the computer to recalibrate the speedometer.

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post Mar 21 2005, 03:36 PM
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Nothing beats the old Supers...

Platinums suck!

The Beru Silver plugs rock, but they are 7 bucks each if you can find them...

All the BS about plugs has never proven it's self on my dyno......

I only use the NGK s with our 12mm plug retrofits because Bosch does not make an adequate plug for them....
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post Mar 21 2005, 03:50 PM
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I am using the +4's with a blaster2 coil. My idle improved very much. It was also much easier to get repeat results when tuning the carbs.

AS far as overall hp, prolly don't do much if anything--but that is seat of the pants--

What I can tell you is that there is no electrode wear--the gap stays the same thru its life--

So I did have some improvement--and they were only 5 bucks each.

I do run a hot coil tho--some say they foul easy,all depends on the person-- but look at these, 18,000 mi on a slam wore out 1.7--they never hiccup'd or fouled, they sparked always-- (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) And yes, they ARE going into my turbo motor---





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post Mar 21 2005, 03:51 PM
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This is what they were up against---


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post Mar 21 2005, 03:52 PM
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And the chambers----it is nice peace of mind that thru out their life the gap will never change--and with a hot coil ( presumably ) will spark in bad situations---they worked for me--my two cents


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post Mar 21 2005, 03:55 PM
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Nice head leaks...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

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post Mar 21 2005, 03:56 PM
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I like Sam. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Mar 21 2005, 01:55 PM)
Nice head leaks...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)


Nevermind those...what about those lavender gloves???

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post Mar 21 2005, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Rgreen914 @ Mar 21 2005, 04:58 PM)
QUOTE (Jake Raby @ Mar 21 2005, 01:55 PM)
Nice head leaks...... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)


Nevermind those...what about those lavender gloves???

Ron

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Those were the pushrod seals gone bad--the cylinder mating surface was not leaking--yet--

Those gloves are garden variety nitriles--I guess from the color that is why they are cheaper than the others--they stand up quite nicely tho---

All I need is to wear an apron with " Kiss the Mech " on it!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 21 2005, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE (Joe Sharp @ Mar 21 2005, 04:56 PM)
I like Sam. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wub.gif) ---Yea, SIGH,,,,,,,I do too-----until she wants to get serious-- (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif) .... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 21 2005, 04:20 PM
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I've used both NGKs and Bosch Supers. Both seemed to work very good. I've heard some pretty bad things about the Bosch Platinums, so I've never bothered with them. My Audi uses the original Bosch Platinum plugs, and they're supposed to be really good. They also cost something like $15 a plug. I'm not looking forward to replacing those bad boys!

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post Mar 21 2005, 04:34 PM
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dang...i was only away from the comp for about an hour for lunch...thanks for the numerous replies...thanks again guys...i'll prolly settle for the NGK BP6ES...available at the local FLAPS? kragen, autozone, and such?
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other than plugs...what causes the popping noise out of the exhaust pipe when im in a high gear and low rpm?
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post Mar 21 2005, 04:42 PM
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well i did a search on www.kragen.com for the NGK BP6ES, and came up with only the B6ES are these the same plugs?
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post Mar 21 2005, 04:49 PM
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That cylinder mating surface WAS leaking...... Betcha.

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other than plugs...what causes the popping noise out of the exhaust pipe when im in a high gear and low rpm?


Tight exhaust valve(s)
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post Mar 21 2005, 04:54 PM
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hmm...tight exhaust valve aye....well i did a valve adjustment about 2 months back and im not getting the popping as often as i use to...i'll prolly check out in during spring break....thanks Jake (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
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