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> Saved $2 ended up costing $1000's, - Master Cylinder Grommet Washers
Kansas 914
post Mar 22 2016, 11:46 AM
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I bought my /6 last year pretty much complete. Everything was well done. 911 suspension all around. 911 brakes all around including drum emergency brake on the rears. It appeared to be a "no costs spared" restoration.

Here is the detail on just the brakes: "Brake system was upgraded in many ways. Porsche 911E front struts were installed in order to handle Porsche 911S "A" calipers. New vented front and rear 911 brake rotors. All metal brake lines and rubber hoses were replaced. The rear brake calipers are rebuilt and come from a Porsche 911S. Factory spacer shims added to the rear "M" calipers to accommodate the vented rotors. A machined spacer was added to the inside of the new rotors to align the rotor centerline to the caliper centerline. New factory rear stub axles were purchased in Germany to complete the five mounting bolt wheel conversion. The parking brake system is now the Porsche 911 type brake shoes within the brake rotor design."

Last week I decided it was time to take the cars out of hibernation. The /6 was on top of the lift and the red flared car was under the lift. I got in the red car and noticed the WAS top was all but shattered. I pulled the car out of the garage and noticed it was wet. Apparently the master cylinder failed in the top car and emptied all the brake fluid into my drip pan, which eventually leaked.

Besides the WAS top getting demolished, we all know what brake fluid can do to paint. I took it to 2 different body shops and am waiting for estimates. So far for paint it will need the hood, right front fender, passenger door, windshield frame, rear fender and rear deck lid.

Today I got under the /6 and removed the 23mm master cylinder thinking the internal rubber seals had failed, but I don't think so. The grommets from the reservoir were damp. Upon removal I noticed neither of the grommets had the REQUIRED washer under them. I think it was just a lack of experience as to why they didn't get installed because they are 62 cents a piece at Stoddard (http://www.stoddard.com/90135593600.html). Why it failed over the Winter is a mystery as the temperature in the garage never gets below 45 degrees.

There are several lessons to be learned here.

#1 - If you don't know what you are doing don't do it, especially when it comes to brakes.

#2 - Bulletproof your drip trays if you are storing a car underneath another one...

#3 - Have good insurance even when stored in a garage.

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Kansas 914   Saved $2 ended up costing $1000's   Mar 22 2016, 11:46 AM
Ferg   :( Man that just sucks all the way around. Sorr...   Mar 22 2016, 11:50 AM
Kansas 914   :( Man that just sucks all the way around. Sor...   Mar 22 2016, 11:51 AM
Chris H.   Thanks Ferg. At least no one was hurt in brake f...   Mar 22 2016, 12:47 PM
Kansas 914   Thanks Ferg. At least no one was hurt in brake ...   Mar 22 2016, 12:51 PM
sixnotfour   Wow that is not Good....you'll getr done right...   Mar 22 2016, 12:13 PM
mepstein   That's a bad day. I'm sorry.   Mar 22 2016, 12:15 PM
jd74914   That really does suck. I hope insurance is kind to...   Mar 22 2016, 12:19 PM
JRust   Man I can relate to coming out to the shop to find...   Mar 22 2016, 12:53 PM
Kansas 914   Man I can relate to coming out to the shop to fin...   Mar 22 2016, 01:04 PM
Kansas 914   I decided to do an overnight leak test before putt...   Mar 22 2016, 01:15 PM
mgp4591   Great idea- sure beats finding it out the hard way...   Mar 22 2016, 02:08 PM
Kansas 914   Great idea- sure beats finding it out the hard wa...   Mar 22 2016, 02:10 PM
JRust   Thanks - it will be fixed by Route 66 Classic. T...   Mar 22 2016, 04:20 PM
Kansas 914   There was just enough flex in my pedal that after...   Mar 22 2016, 05:15 PM
mgp4591   [quote name='mgp4591' post='2319104' date='Mar 22...   Mar 22 2016, 05:16 PM
Kansas 914   Actually Mike, I was thinking about running hard ...   Mar 22 2016, 05:18 PM
porschetub   Actually Mike, I was thinking about running hard...   Mar 23 2016, 12:20 AM
Kansas 914   Did you say 23mm cylinder ?,thats huge,why?,just ...   Mar 23 2016, 07:47 AM
saigon71   Absolutely brutal. Sorry to hear Mike.   Mar 22 2016, 02:33 PM
brant   crapp...... so sorry this happened... that sucks...   Mar 22 2016, 02:36 PM
Garland   I had the same thing happen to a 914 years ago, th...   Mar 22 2016, 02:41 PM
Cairo94507   Oh man....that is just a shame. But, at least you...   Mar 22 2016, 02:43 PM
whitetwinturbo   :headbang: ......spring HAS sprung!   Mar 22 2016, 02:49 PM
Sleepin   Ugh....the only thing worse than hearing about the...   Mar 22 2016, 02:51 PM
Kansas 914   At least you don't have to match the color of...   Mar 22 2016, 03:13 PM
Sleepin   Actually if the /6 was dripped on I would go b...   Mar 22 2016, 03:36 PM
Kansas 914   Actually if the /6 was dripped on I would go ...   Mar 22 2016, 03:48 PM
scotty b   Sorry to hear this. :( I have a local customer I ...   Mar 22 2016, 03:10 PM
Kansas 914   Anywhere the paint got wet needs to be stripped t...   Mar 22 2016, 03:14 PM
rick 918-S   Sorry to hear this. :( I have a local customer I...   Mar 23 2016, 08:38 AM
Kansas 914   :agree: and pull that windshield. Have the shop...   Mar 23 2016, 08:45 AM
Sleepin   Teardown party Mike? They have the new sign insta...   Mar 23 2016, 08:46 AM
Kansas 914   Teardown party Mike? Any reason for a party suit...   Mar 23 2016, 08:55 AM
Kansas 914   I think you need a turbo to clear that!   Mar 23 2016, 08:56 AM
r_towle   Sorry this happened to you. I had something far l...   Mar 23 2016, 09:15 AM
Kansas 914   Sorry this happened to you. I had something far ...   Mar 23 2016, 09:30 AM
Mark Henry   ouch, :( Sorry this happened to you. I had so...   Mar 23 2016, 09:36 AM
gridgway   Not sure a sheet of plastic will be proof against ...   Mar 23 2016, 10:17 AM
Kansas 914   Not sure a sheet of plastic will be proof against...   Mar 23 2016, 10:19 AM
r_towle   Not sure a sheet of plastic will be proof agains...   Mar 23 2016, 08:06 PM
Kansas 914   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2319522' date='Mar...   Mar 24 2016, 07:41 AM
sixnotfour   McMark has a bolt in master support....May not wor...   Mar 23 2016, 10:51 AM
Kansas 914   McMark has a bolt in master support....May not wo...   Mar 23 2016, 11:04 AM
gridgway   One of the problems of a huge (23mm) master cylind...   Mar 23 2016, 11:48 AM
Kansas 914   One of the problems of a huge (23mm) master cylin...   Mar 23 2016, 01:31 PM
mgp4591   Would there be anything wrong with welding in thic...   Mar 23 2016, 03:57 PM
RobW   Wow, sorry Mike. You'll laugh about this somed...   Mar 24 2016, 08:08 AM
Kansas 914   Wow, sorry Mike. You'll laugh about this some...   Mar 24 2016, 08:41 AM
Sleepin   Remember the best things in life aren't even...   Mar 24 2016, 09:44 AM
Kansas 914   Remember the best things in life aren't eve...   Mar 24 2016, 09:46 AM
worn   Upon removal I noticed neither of the grommets h...   Mar 24 2016, 09:12 AM
Kansas 914   That is a dumb but easy to make mistake. I think...   Mar 24 2016, 09:43 AM
Sleepin   :beer1:   Mar 24 2016, 09:59 AM


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