 is my clutch cable stretching, ???????? |
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| malcolm2 |
 Apr 18 2016, 12:46 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States 
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I noticed that the friction point of the clutch is lower than usual. And I also noticed this weekend that if I am at a stop light waiting my turn I idle without being in gear and without the clutch being depressed.
As my turn gets closer, I depress the clutch and put it in 1st gear. I noticed this weekend that the idle drops and the car struggles to idle with the clutch to the floor. are these 2 related? |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 18 2016, 01:01 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Clutch tube broke lose in the tunnel?
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 18 2016, 01:02 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Apr 18 2016, 02:01 PM)  I have not checked in a while (year maybe), but should be easy enough. |
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| McMark |
Apr 18 2016, 02:28 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Do you have two nuts on the clutch cable? Anything other than two normal 7mmx1.00 nuts on the cable can work loose over time.
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 18 2016, 04:24 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 18 2016, 03:28 PM) Do you have two nuts on the clutch cable? Anything other than two normal 7mmx1.00 nuts on the cable can work loose over time. I have 3 spacer nuts just barely bigger than the threaded post and 2 nyloc nuts. The spacers put the lock nuts close to the end so I don't have to move far to tighten.  I just checked the tube and the firewall and nothing is moving. Had the wife work the clutch and everything moves properly at the pulley. The fork does not seem to move much tho. The pedal at rest seems right too. I can pull it up by hand about 1/2 to 1 inch. |
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| Bob L. |
Apr 18 2016, 04:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 847 Joined: 7-August 11 From: Austin TX Member No.: 13,411 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sometimes the clutch tube moves inside the tunnel without being visible at the firewall.
Pull the access plate behind the shift lever and look while working the clutch pedal. |
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 18 2016, 05:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(Bob L. @ Apr 18 2016, 05:33 PM) Sometimes the clutch tube moves inside the tunnel without being visible at the firewall. Pull the access plate behind the shift lever and look while working the clutch pedal. Since a PO jury rigged the clutch tube with a u-bolt i have many accesses in rhe top of my tunnel. So i lifted the pad and box and reached in and grabbed the tube. Depressed the clutch and the tube did not move. I tried another ho-made access hole and still no movement. |
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| r_towle |
Apr 18 2016, 06:43 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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Tighten the cable.
When you push in your clutch pedal, on any car really, you apply thrust force to the crankshaft. So, if you are bored, go google that and you will find that many believe holding your clutch in at a stop sign is not good for the motor. So, I would suggest you adjust your cable, and buy a new one tonight. Your cable is starting to fail, and will break within 90 days if you drive the car regularly....it's how it starts. The idle issue could be you,have a clutch not disengaging properly, or your thrust bearing is wearing out, or both. Rich |
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 18 2016, 07:34 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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Well Rich is full of good news.
Tonight it wasn't just waiting at a stop light. The idle drop seemed to happen more frequently. Imagine a 3 point turn. |
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| 76-914 |
Apr 18 2016, 07:47 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,501 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California
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Technically, they all are stretching from day one. Adjustments will come more often as more strands break and fewer are left to handle the load. Yours sounds very close to crapping out. It's a quick repair. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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| BK911 |
Apr 19 2016, 07:10 AM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 18 2016, 07:43 PM) Tighten the cable So, I would suggest you adjust your cable, and buy a new one tonight. Your cable is starting to fail, and will break within 90 days if you drive the car regularly....it's how it starts. That's what happened to mine. Had to tighten the cable every couple weeks or so, until BAM!!! Nothing. Sucks being stuck on the side of the road with a running engine. Replace it before its too late. |
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 19 2016, 07:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(BK911 @ Apr 19 2016, 08:10 AM) QUOTE(r_towle @ Apr 18 2016, 07:43 PM) Tighten the cable So, I would suggest you adjust your cable, and buy a new one tonight. Your cable is starting to fail, and will break within 90 days if you drive the car regularly....it's how it starts. That's what happened to mine. Had to tighten the cable every couple weeks or so, until BAM!!! Nothing. Sucks being stuck on the side of the road with a running engine. Replace it before its too late. So how long do you give the patient? How many miles or days or adjustments or whatever til the cable breaks? I thought I had a few threads showing on mine when I put my Dr Evil Tranz in 10,000 miles and 12 months ago. So maybe, just maybe, the nuts have loosened. I will adjust and snap a photo and keep my cable and tools in the car. I want to avoid the BAM! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
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| BK911 |
Apr 19 2016, 07:29 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 672 Joined: 19-February 04 From: Rocky Top, TN Member No.: 1,674 Region Association: None |
I drive my car a bit. 150 miles a week. Tightened up 2 or 3 times over a month or two.
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| McMark |
Apr 19 2016, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 19 2016, 09:15 AM) I want to avoid the BAM! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Then order a new one right now and install it as soon as it arrives. No, right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Go. Go do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) |
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 19 2016, 08:54 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 19 2016, 08:34 AM) QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 19 2016, 09:15 AM) I want to avoid the BAM! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Then order a new one right now and install it as soon as it arrives. No, right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Go. Go do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks to my recent project of taking partial ownership of a 71 914 that is not going to be built..... I actually have a cable. I am going to do the adjustment and run a tank of gas thru it. I am going with "glass half full" here, maybe the nuts moved? maybe not. I can use a broken clutch cable as an excuse to go to work late, or take the whole day off, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| Puebloswatcop |
Apr 19 2016, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,389 Joined: 27-December 14 From: Mineola, Texas Member No.: 18,258 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 19 2016, 08:54 AM) QUOTE(McMark @ Apr 19 2016, 08:34 AM) QUOTE(malcolm2 @ Apr 19 2016, 09:15 AM) I want to avoid the BAM! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Then order a new one right now and install it as soon as it arrives. No, right now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) Go. Go do it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheer.gif) Thanks to my recent project of taking partial ownership of a 71 914 that is not going to be built..... I actually have a cable. I am going to do the adjustment and run a tank of gas thru it. I am going with "glass half full" here, maybe the nuts moved? maybe not. I can use a broken clutch cable as an excuse to go to work late, or take the whole day off, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) Its a better excuse than my radiator froze up....lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) |
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| malcolm2 |
Apr 20 2016, 06:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,745 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States
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CLOSURE IS GOOD, right?
Still no BAM, but i did adjust about 3 or 4 threads. Drove a bit and the idle issue is solved. Engine does not even react to the clutch. The friction point is at about 1/2 pedal and i still have some upward play in the pedal at rest. Notice the new picture. You can see threads.  |
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| r_towle |
Apr 20 2016, 06:24 PM
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Custom Member Group: Members Posts: 24,574 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Taxachusetts Member No.: 124 Region Association: North East States
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| Mikey914 |
Apr 20 2016, 06:30 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,661 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None
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Again, check the ground on the transmission. It the ground is not making good contact, the electricity takes the next path which is .......... the clutch cable. Ask me know I know (WCR05).
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