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> Clutch Tube Repair, Step by Step Pictures
JeffBowlsby
post Mar 31 2005, 01:02 AM
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Thanks Ernie...nice job. Kinda makes you wish the center tunnel had a bolt on cover eh?

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post Mar 31 2005, 11:10 PM
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The picks make my welds look good (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)
That center bracket would not have broken loose if I had cleaned the tube better.
But (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) on it did not help.
I need to spend some more time (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif) and the welds will look beter.
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post Oct 7 2005, 11:19 AM
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i'll move this to the classic threads section! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

one thing, i *really* hope you sprayed out the inside of that tunnel with *plenty* of metal ready.
all that surface rust will come back to haunt you otherwise ...

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post Oct 7 2005, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Oct 7 2005, 09:19 AM)
i'll move this to the classic threads section! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)

one thing, i *really* hope you sprayed out the inside of that tunnel with *plenty* of metal ready.
all that surface rust will come back to haunt you otherwise ...

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Where do you get Metal Ready and POR-15?

Just a regular paint store?

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post Oct 7 2005, 12:22 PM
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QUOTE (olav @ Oct 7 2005, 11:14 AM)
Where do you get Metal Ready and POR-15?

http://www.por15.com/

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post Oct 7 2005, 12:43 PM
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Nice Job!

As you noticed, you have to be careful with welding on the tube to avoid plugging the center. Also, as you noticed, the factory brazed every joint of that install to avoid damaging the tube which can make it impossible to weld.

It's a PITA of a job, looks like yours will be fine for another 30 years. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif)
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post Oct 7 2005, 12:59 PM
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I like that washer on the rear firewall. I might do that (and anything else I can think of) as a preventative measure.

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post Oct 7 2005, 12:59 PM
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QUOTE (McMark @ Oct 7 2005, 10:43 AM)
Nice Job!

be careful with welding on the tube to avoid plugging the center

I have to weld my tube also. What do you mean by "plugging the center"?

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post Oct 7 2005, 01:20 PM
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I think he means don't burn through and block the clutch cable with slag, mig wire, etc.
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post Oct 7 2005, 03:22 PM
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Correct Jon. I slide a number 2 Phillips into the tube when welding on it. It is VERY difficult to weld to a screwdriver.


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post Oct 7 2005, 03:43 PM
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Welding can something like what is pictured below. The weld on the inside of the circle can either keep the cable from going through at all, or can chaff the wire enough to shorten its life-span. Gotta be careful. Brads idea is a good one.


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post Oct 7 2005, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (McMark @ Oct 7 2005, 02:43 PM)
Welding can something like what is pictured below. The weld on the inside of the circle can either keep the cable from going through at all, or can chaff the wire enough to shorten its life-span. Gotta be careful. Brads idea is a good one.

Better would be a piece of copper tubing smeared with mig dip. It'd be flexible enough that you could feed it down the whole length of the clutch tube and it would protect it everywhere you might be making repairs. On my V8 car I'm going to do this and I'll be welding the tube in place every few inches. It won't be going anywhere! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/welder.gif)

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post Oct 8 2005, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Oct 7 2005, 10:19 AM)
i *really* hope you sprayed out the inside of that tunnel with *plenty* of metal ready.
all that surface rust will come back to haunt you otherwise ...

Thanks Andy! I was hoping this would be helpful to folks.

I did not treat the surface rust. It's not that the surface rust isn't a concern, but I'd never heard of Metal Ready so I didn't know there was anything I could do about it. I see that it is listed as a prep treatment for POR-15 so I probably would not have thought about using it by itself. I've often thought that the center tunnel could be a rust problem waiting to happen because it is so tight that you can't get into it to do anything. Will spraying it with Metal Ready really help if you don't follow up with POR-15?
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post Oct 8 2005, 11:33 AM
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i guess

metal ready converts rust into a paintable surface and is supposed to, in therory, prevent more rust from forming......


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post Oct 8 2005, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (ThinAir914 @ Oct 8 2005, 10:23 AM)
Will spraying it with Metal Ready really help if you don't follow up with POR-15?

absolutely!
metal ready is what does all the work, POR-15 is primarily a moisture barrier and heavy duty protective coat ...

you can most certainly use metal ready all by itself and it will permanently get rid of your surface rust and create a protective coat of sorts ...
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post Oct 12 2005, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (SirAndy @ Oct 8 2005, 11:38 AM)
QUOTE (ThinAir914 @ Oct 8 2005, 10:23 AM)
Will spraying it with Metal Ready really help if you don't follow up with POR-15?

absolutely!
metal ready is what does all the work, POR-15 is primarily a moisture barrier and heavy duty protective coat ...

you can most certainly use metal ready all by itself and it will permanently get rid of your surface rust and create a protective coat of sorts ...
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Moving this to the Classics section.

I have to add though...

I hate to break this to you, but Metal Ready by itself will only prevent rust for a short time or under a finite set of circumstances (whatever they are, I certainly don't know exactly).

I can tell you without a doubt, that exposed to enough moisture, Metal Ready will allow rust to form on bare steel. When I hauled my tub to NorCal, I had coated it beforehand with *many* coats of Metal Ready. The rain washed it off, and surface rust started to form.
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QUOTE (Gint @ Oct 12 2005, 06:56 PM)
The rain washed it off, and surface rust started to form.

hmmm, interesting ...

i had used metal ready on some surface rust in my rear trunk and later had water standing in it for quite a while (2 weeks +) with NO sign of rust whatsoever ...

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post Mar 13 2023, 01:41 PM
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Sorry.... old post, but a good one. Wanted to add that I am a fan of the POR-15 products.

I used what used to be called Metal Ready from them, then sometimes, if the application warrants it, I use the Eastwood internal frame coating.... That stuff will NEVER come off. I even got some on a window and a razor would not get it off. It comes with a long spray hose that would be perfect for this application.

https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-internal-...oz-aerosol.html

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