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| SirAndy |
  Apr 3 2005, 08:32 PM
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Resident German  Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California  |
so, i'm designing a website for a fellow club member and i'm wondering how far i should take this browser compatibility thing ...
right now, it's working great on Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.0 or better Mozilla Firefox 1.0 or better i have NOT tested it on Netscape yet and my question is, should i even bother ??? the site is using quite a bit of JavaScript (think DHTML) and stuff like IFRAME etc. as well as CSS ... your input is appreciated, as always ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Andy |
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| stags14 |
Apr 3 2005, 08:41 PM
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Meep Meep Meep Meep Meep!!! Group: Members Posts: 84 Joined: 24-February 05 From: Amherst, NY Member No.: 3,653 |
I wouldn't bother... but that's just me. I write a lot of apps for our company's internal website. I can't tell you how nice it is to know precisely all the details of your end user. |
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| ben1440 |
Apr 3 2005, 08:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 1-March 05 From: Santa Rosa Ca Member No.: 3,688 |
SAFARI!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| CptTripps |
Apr 3 2005, 09:11 PM
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:: Punch and Pie :: Group: Members Posts: 3,584 Joined: 26-December 04 From: Mentor, OH Member No.: 3,342 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Safari is based (kinda) off the Geko engine. From our experience, if it works in FireFox, it'll be ok in Safari. |
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| Gint |
Apr 3 2005, 09:14 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
You know how I feel about this subject. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Design web pages for the least common denominator to reach the widest audience. If you don't do that, at least *know* what browsers your new web site won't work with and explain that to your client so they also know. Test it with a newer version of Netscape. You may find that it only takes a few minor tweaks (if anything) to make it work with all browsers. |
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| p914 |
Apr 3 2005, 10:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 1,117 Region Association: None |
Opera and netscape. Ya never know,
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| SirAndy |
Apr 3 2005, 11:46 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
yeah, i guess you guys are right, downloading netscape as we speak ... maybe i should try a slightly older version, just to be sure ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) Andy |
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| ben1440 |
Apr 3 2005, 11:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 171 Joined: 1-March 05 From: Santa Rosa Ca Member No.: 3,688 |
from my experience people are either using netscape 7x or 4.7x 4.7x should be available for download still
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| SirAndy |
Apr 3 2005, 11:54 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
alright, i'm getting NS 7.02 now. i'll report back later ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/type.gif) Andy |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 4 2005, 12:10 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
damm, i'm good! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
the only thing that doesn't work in netscape is the transparency for my IFRAME ... i'm looking for a "workaround" right now, but i can live with that if i can't find any. time to open some beers!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) Andy |
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| grantsfo |
Apr 4 2005, 02:14 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
I second that motion! Safari for all us Mac users. |
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| Gint |
Apr 4 2005, 07:21 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
You should try it with Netscape 4.7 just so you "know" it won't work with it. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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| FriarJohn |
Apr 4 2005, 08:15 AM
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Non-914-Owner Group: Members Posts: 134 Joined: 29-January 03 Member No.: 211 Region Association: None |
As far as any pre-Gecko version of Netscape, I just hide the stylesheets from it and make sure the content properly "linearizes," that is to say if you're using complex CSS and absolute positioning, just make sure the order of blocks in the un-styled file makes sense to the user who won't get the styled version.
In other words, for all intents and purposes, f*ck Netscape 4.*. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/fighting19.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) |
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| ThinAir |
Apr 4 2005, 10:13 AM
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Best friends Group: Members Posts: 2,542 Joined: 4-February 03 From: Flagstaff, AZ Member No.: 231 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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My philosophy is to follow the advice of Jeffrey Zeldman's book "Designing with Web Standards". He shows how to create sites that are compliant with Web Standards, yet degrade gracefully for users who use old browsers like Netscape 4.7 or bad browsers like Internet Explorer (any version).
I agree with Gint - you design so that every person who views the page will see something informative, even if it doesn't look exactly the same in every user's experience. |
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| Rand |
Apr 4 2005, 04:51 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
EXCELLENT book! |
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| SirAndy |
Apr 4 2005, 08:43 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,651 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
don't have a MAC, don't want a MAC, sorry ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) Updated List: ----------------- MS Internet Explorer 5.0+, everything works perfect Mozilla Firefox 1.0+, everything works perfect Netscape 7.02+, everything works perfect, except transparent IFRAMEs Opera 7.54u2+, everything works perfect, except transparent IFRAMEs not too bad at all! i can live with the IFRAME problem, all it does is show the frame on a white background, which is OK because all it is is text and form elements anyways ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beerchug.gif) Andy |
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