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> 914 smog testing, Whats required in your area?
JeffBowlsby
post May 26 2016, 09:44 PM
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I had to smog my DD today and noticed this sign in the waiting room, which would be applicable to the 1976 914s. Tech says they pinch off the evap system (tubing and charcoal filter between the fuel tank and air filter box) and insert some kind of gas under low pressure to test the evap system, for leaks.

What other testing is required in your area, if any?


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post May 28 2016, 09:59 AM
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Jeff,
I never knew that test existed either. The only car I have that fits in that category is my 82' VW Rabbit Pick-up, it passed smog with no issues, the tech looked at the evap system hoses to ensure they matched the diagram on the sticker under the hood and tested my gas cap. What else does this test encompass?

I also had my 2013 VW Passat TDi "Smog Tested" which means they hook up to your OBD II port to see if anyone installed any aftermarket software. No tailpipe testing.

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QUOTE(Dominic @ May 28 2016, 11:59 AM) *

Jeff,
I never knew that test existed either. The only car I have that fits in that category is my 82' VW Rabbit Pick-up, it passed smog with no issues, the tech looked at the evap system hoses to ensure they matched the diagram on the sticker under the hood and tested my gas cap. What else does this test encompass?

I also had my 2013 VW Passat TDi "Smog Tested" which means they hook up to your OBD II port to see if anyone installed any aftermarket software. No tailpipe testing.

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Dominic


The Dyno machine with the rollers in the floor is called a BAR 97. Meaning 97 and older cars back to the exemption use this machine. Cars newer than this just get the OBDII query. So yes,no tailpipe sniff.
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QUOTE(Dominic @ May 28 2016, 11:59 AM) *

Jeff,
I never knew that test existed either. The only car I have that fits in that category is my 82' VW Rabbit Pick-up, it passed smog with no issues, the tech looked at the evap system hoses to ensure they matched the diagram on the sticker under the hood and tested my gas cap. What else does this test encompass?

I also had my 2013 VW Passat TDi "Smog Tested" which means they hook up to your OBD II port to see if anyone installed any aftermarket software. No tailpipe testing.

Cheers,
Dominic


The Dyno machine with the rollers in the floor is called a BAR 97. Meaning 97 and older cars back to the exemption use this machine. Cars newer than this just get the OBDII query. So yes,no tailpipe sniff.


The dyno tester was called BAR 97 before the OBDII only test was implemented. I used to have to have my 2008 truck and 2001 VW dyno tested, now they just plug them in. I thought it came out of laws passed in 1997, hence the BAR 97 name.

Don't yet know about my 96 Audi since it has a check engine light on (EGR prob) and so it fails immediately and does not get the chance to fail some other portion of the test. It won't get a dyno test anyway since it is permanent AWD.

I never renewed my Smog license after my Bar 84 license expired.

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QUOTE(Dominic @ May 28 2016, 11:59 AM) *

Jeff,
I never knew that test existed either. The only car I have that fits in that category is my 82' VW Rabbit Pick-up, it passed smog with no issues, the tech looked at the evap system hoses to ensure they matched the diagram on the sticker under the hood and tested my gas cap. What else does this test encompass?

I also had my 2013 VW Passat TDi "Smog Tested" which means they hook up to your OBD II port to see if anyone installed any aftermarket software. No tailpipe testing.

Cheers,
Dominic


The Dyno machine with the rollers in the floor is called a BAR 97. Meaning 97 and older cars back to the exemption use this machine. Cars newer than this just get the OBDII query. So yes,no tailpipe sniff.




The dyno tester was called BAR 97 before the OBDII only test was implemented. I used to have to have my 2008 truck and 2001 VW dyno tested, now they just plug them in. I thought it came out of laws passed in 1997, hence the BAR 97 name.

Don't yet know about my 96 Audi since it has a check engine light on (EGR prob) and so it fails immediately and does not get the chance to fail some other portion of the test. It won't get a dyno test anyway since it is permanent AWD.

I never renewed my Smog license after my Bar 84 license expired.

Jim


Probably true Jim. I just own the shop. Not a smog tech...
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Jeff Bowlsby   914 smog testing   May 26 2016, 09:44 PM
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ConeDodger   Huh??? I own a smog shop and I don't charge ex...   May 26 2016, 11:06 PM
Pursang   No test required in Oregon...yet.   May 27 2016, 01:00 AM
Mikey914   I got the collector car plate in Oregon, 5,000mile...   May 27 2016, 01:21 AM
OU812   None of that here in Minnesota!   May 27 2016, 04:21 AM
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JOEPROPER   In New York we test 1996 thru 2014 currently for e...   May 27 2016, 10:12 AM
jor   In CA, it's a real difficulty to have a '7...   May 27 2016, 10:13 AM
OU812   In CA, it's a real difficulty to have a ...   May 27 2016, 10:38 AM
ConeDodger   In CA, it's a real difficulty to have a ...   May 27 2016, 09:44 PM
somd914   In Maryland the Baltimore and DC areas require smo...   May 27 2016, 10:54 AM
r_towle   Sad sign, We must do this test We don't know ...   May 27 2016, 11:12 AM
somd914   Sad sign, We must do this test We don't know...   May 27 2016, 12:20 PM
mepstein   PA, antique car, one (lifetime) $74 registrat...   May 27 2016, 12:39 PM
JawjaPorsche   No test on any car.   May 27 2016, 12:49 PM
colingreene   sniffer dyno test.   May 27 2016, 10:34 PM
barefoot   Smog Smog, what's that ? doesn't exist is ...   May 28 2016, 07:16 AM
RobW   Bought a brand new (brand new) 2016 4Runner in Ren...   May 28 2016, 08:08 AM
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rhodyguy   Exempt after 25 years.   May 28 2016, 08:09 AM
green914   Guess I will find out in December if my 93 Chevy w...   May 28 2016, 09:22 AM
somd914   And to make matters worse, EPA once again is pushi...   May 28 2016, 09:38 AM
Dominic   Jeff, I never knew that test existed either. The ...   May 28 2016, 09:59 AM
ConeDodger   Jeff, I never knew that test existed either. The...   May 28 2016, 10:53 AM
jcd914   Jeff, I never knew that test existed either. Th...   May 28 2016, 11:18 AM
ConeDodger   [quote name='ConeDodger' post='2351550' date='May...   May 28 2016, 11:14 PM
ConeDodger   It's the only machine in the shop that doesn...   May 28 2016, 10:50 AM
jcd914   The EVAP system pressure test is just looking for ...   May 28 2016, 10:56 AM
ConeDodger   Just talked to my tech. The 76 2.0 and 1.8 both re...   May 28 2016, 11:08 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Good thread! The masochist in me has never be...   May 28 2016, 11:30 AM
RobW   I crack up at this BS. Met the CA director for a...   May 29 2016, 07:49 AM
ConeDodger   I crack up at this BS. Met the CA director for ...   May 29 2016, 08:41 AM
RobW   I crack up at this BS. Met the CA director for...   May 29 2016, 09:42 AM
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