I hope gas prices drop before the WCC..., dang, it's going to be an expensive trip Options

[bd1308]

the high school teachers also said tugsten (wolfram) will be depleated by 2050something.....

[FlatSix]

83.9 pence per litre here in the UK.
You do the maths, I'm on a train! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)

[914fire]

gas has jumped .25 cents here in the last week.

[J P Stein]

The benchmark for oil is Saudi "sweet light crude"...last I looked it was 55ish bucks a barrel. Not all crude is priced at 55 bucks, others are at around 20-25 bucks. The refineries that can refine the cheep stuff are making money hand over fist as their gas is just as good as the rest.....that is capitalism, dudes. "Make hay while the sun shines" is hardly a new or radical concept.

IMO, the gas prices you're seeing now are as low as you'll ever see in the future......so buy now! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

[Steve Thacker]

The ANRW deal will be just like the Boron pipeline promise back in real early 70's. We the tax payers will fund the deal "yet again" to have it developed and they will take the fuel and sell it overseas for a premium price. Little of the oil will end up here to lower prices. Mark my word......

[ArtechnikA]

picture today showing $3.17/gal for premium ($2.97 regular) at a South Lake Tahoe Chevron.
SLT is not a fun place to get gasoline to so i'm sure transportation costs are high; the highest gas on US 395 (in my range of travels) was Lee Vining, CA ("Gateway to Yosemite") and a long, long way from anywhere, followed by Bridgeport, CA, which was almost as high - typically $.50/gal higher than "normal" places like Douglas County, NV or Bishop, CA.

i can picture us all now, in Mad Max post-apocalyptic clothing circling the teeners around the refinery, chanting "give us the gazoline..." or maybe not.

[merrill]

Living in Tahoe is a pain in the wallet. Beautiful sights all around you, and then you have to fill up (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif) Cost was $2.65 per gallon, 22 gallon tank, damn that hurt (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

[ppickerell]

It's a ploy by the Bush administration to open up drilling on the West Coast and in the Arctic National Refuge.
Flame on you bastards that voted for the killer.

[grantsfo]

Between the devalued dollar and demand in China we are on the train to $3.00 plus prices within the next couple months. Sure glad my Toyota gets 40 MPG. Pretty much takes the sting out of these prices. My bigger concern are impacts to prices of commodities that travel via truck in the US.

On the news in Central California there was a report of a gas station in Big Sur charging $3.79 per gallon for regular unleaded. Warning for anyone thinking of taking Highway One with a low tank.

[Chris914n6]

It's a big game. The big oil companies have contracts, or own the rights to the oil before its pumped, which is still at $25-26 a barrel from OPEC. The commodaties market, which is driven by speculation ( you know, opinions ) is habited by folks looking to make money on the up or down. The big companies certainly aren't paying that much, but they can legally charge that much when they sell it to us ( the consumer ). Profits are high obviously for them and the stockholders.
The markets major rise is based on future demand from China, lower reserves here, summer, the long cold winter (heating oil), and questions on the amount of oil really left in the ground. This past year saw overestimate corrections from several major supplies, like from Shell, and in Russia.
A perfect example is when the Irac war started- price rose as the ultimatum date came closer, then immediately dropped $12 in 10 days after the first bomb. Did supply and demand change significantly anywhere at that time? No.
The oil companies are raking in the dough before technology bombs their industry.
And we'll run out of money before we run out of oil. In 2035 we'll all drive battery powered cars because only the rich will be able to afford gas.

[bd1308]

dude, why doesn't jake start popping out some LP carbs for our cars...or run them from veggie oil and just use glow plugs.....

[jimtab]

QUOTE (Mueller @ Apr 6 2005, 02:15 PM)

local prices here are averaging 2.43 to 2.63 for regular.....I'm hoping the Pilot/Loves gas stations are much cheaper in a week and a half (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) I'm guessing I'll be lucky to get 15mpg in my truck if I tow the 914.....close to 900 miles round trip......ouch....

And that doesn't include the price of the P-toys.....

[scotty914]

i still say its gouging, sorry sammy but i do. to use your example with the ebay thing, the seller buys the item for 20 bucks because that what they were willing to pay for something they wanted. when it comes to gas it is a different story, the gas suppliers will keep uping the price until they see a drop in use. we dont have an option of buying, we have to, no choice, none nada zip. i have a small business and i am spending about about 70 bucks a week in gas. and if i am in the wrong area i can pay 20 to 30 cents more at the same brand gas station. i onced asked a exxon station owner why he was 25 or so cents higher than the exxon 5 miles away.

his responce was "because i can" i asked him what he ment, he said he just kept raising his gas prices until he saw a drop in sales, at the time he was making almost 50 cents a gallon

i have done work at gas distribution and gas stations, and i have meet the vice pres of exxon, he basicly told me the only thing that effects the price of gas is what the makers want for profit. at the time we were installing the mix and flow controls for filling up the tanker trucks i asked him why they keep changing the equipment ( we did this every six months ) he said because they can. i then asked is it expensive to keep changing it, he said it does not matter the cost to change out $20,000 of stuff every 6 months was only one day of profits from the gas sold out of the station

basicly if oil costs 50 dollars a barrel, they will get about 40 to 45 gallons of gas out of it. at 2.50 a gallon so they would be making over 100 dollars a barrel. or 50 bucks a barrel profit, not including the other stuff that is left over ( 10 to 15 gallons ) that they sell for other stuff ( like plastics and motor oil )

so 50 bucks for 40 or so gallons is more than a dollar a gallon profit between the maker the distrubter and the seller, and the cost to manifacture the gas is something like 10 cents a gallon ( equipment and labor )

this is why i dont buy from exxon

[GWN7]

There will be preasure from the big 3 (GM, Ford & Chrysler) in about 6 months when they are sitting on huge amounts of inventory (trucks & SUV's) to lower fuel prices.

Governments love high fuel prices because of all that extra tax they collect.

One thing I have never been able to figure out is the barrel price goes up in the middle East and the next day it's up at the pump, but when it goes down it takes a month before you see any relief.

[scotty914]

QUOTE (GWN7 @ Apr 7 2005, 09:13 PM)

One thing I have never been able to figure out is the barrel price goes up in the middle East and the next day it's up at the pump, but when it goes down it takes a month before you see any relief.

its simple the public sees or reads about a price hike, so the gas people can raise prices and blame it on the oil prices. but they get to make more profits till their price goes up.

then when it goes down they say it will take a month before we use up the stuff we paid more for

basicly we are at their mercy to pay what ever they want, as much as i am anti big government, i think they need to lock prices at a reasonable profit range

there was an online petition to get mr bush to declare a state of emergency the last time the prices where lower to lock them there

[skline]

That wont happen, Bush is an oil man himself and profits are going into his great grandchildrens pockets and their grand childrens pockets and so on. The reason the gas is so high is because we accept it. They say the pen is mightier than the sword but yet I think the real power is in the people. If we just stopped buying their product for a year, things might change, but the chance of that happening is nill. The economy is heading for a fall very soon, mark my words, the housing market will be one of the first to fall. The shit will hit the fan so to speak and we will be deep into a major depression. I believe it will happen in my lifetime. This is only my opinion but it sure seems like everything is heading that direction. It is all based on greed. Everyone wants something for nothing and they want to make as much as they can from as little as they can. They sell old used stuff that cost pennies to make back 30 years ago and they tell you its overhead so it costs more. Double taxing in many cases. Why should I have to pay tax on something that someone else bought new and paid the tax then? Charging tax for used stuff is just wrong. It goes on and on.

[Pugbug]

I just filled my dune buggy today with 94 octane. $1.16.9 per litre can$.....That works out to $3.36 us$ per us gallon.
Good thing it sips gas. I hope my 1911 engine in the 914 is as miserly.
I gotta get a smaller truck though!

[tracks914]

Good thing Dubya got us a deal on some cheap oil in Iraq. Just imagine what the price would be if not for the "war"
BTW we are paying 96 cents/litre or about 3.63 for regular and $4.00 for supreme.
My new 2004 F150 fuel light came on today. I just put $30 worth of gas into it and it didn't even come up to the 1/4 mark on the fuel guage.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/finger.gif) to the oil companies.

[rick 918-S]

The Mother Ship gets 12 MPG (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) You do the math... I don't want to know!

[Flat VW]

Imagine what the dialogue must be like over at the Hummerclub.com! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mueba.gif)

Hummerclub, makes me want to be a MEMBER, a STIFF MEMBER! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rocking nana.gif)


John