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> Fiero engine conversion? Anyone done it
Bulldog9
post Jun 15 2016, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(SLITS @ Jun 14 2016, 11:54 PM) *

Chevrolet 60 Degree V6 2.8L .... Look it up!

They went from 2.8L to 3.1 then 3.4. The one I could never find was the 2 year only 3.4L DOHC engine.

The 60 degree V6 was not one of their finest products.


I believe the 3.4 OHC motor was a cut down Northstar Block. It wasn't a great motor (as opposed to the Northstar) Probably way to tall.

I'd love to find one of the all aluminum V-8 blocks Buick used then Rover for a while. I think they have been long gone from salvage yards and are put to use. I was working on a transplant into an 83 SAAB 900 Coupe back in my auto cross days, but kid #3 came along ;-)

I cant think of many GM motors that would be a good transplant option for the 914, with the exception of maybe a Turbo ECOTECH.
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post Jun 15 2016, 02:19 PM
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Was there an automatic fiero?
What tranny did it use?
Did that tranny also bolt up to a SBC motor?


The trans was the Turbo-Hydramatic 125 3 speed transversely mounted (woooooo) so no good for the 914. BTW the V6 was rated at 140hp. Tons of LS and 3.8 swaps out there but not sure if you could (or want to) use the auto trans. I drove an '88 Formula with a manual 5 speed in the '80's once. It was surprisingly quick for the time. Very plasticky car.

Yah, no...
Don't want to go sideways....it would throw off the balance....

Just thought if it was easy.....
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post Jun 15 2016, 02:35 PM
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The Fiero was designed as a small, lightweight sports car. It had a Buick Grand National motor coupled to a 5 speed transverse mounted transmission. The front suspension was custom made double wishbone suspension with big brakes and big tires.

One day, a Pontiac executive showed up at the test facility, and insisted he was going to drive the prototype. He quite literally scared the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) out of himself. He proclaimed as he walked away "That car is too fast. You are not building it!" So the engineers pulled the Grand National engine and put in the Pontiac Iron Duke 4 cylinder, smaller brakes, smaller fuel efficient tires, and sold it to management as a "commuter car".

Then the bean counters got a hold of it and it got front suspension parts from a Chevette, and the transmission and brakes from a Citation. And that is what they sold to the public.

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post Jun 15 2016, 03:23 PM
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And in typical GM Fashion..... you know the company that killed Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab - the FINAL year of the Fiero model run was finally a pretty refined package. Then they cancelled it............. I dont know if that is why they did what they did, but it was ridiculous. I think they used the whole Citation FRONT suspension and used it in the rear with a few modifications. The last GM car I will ever own is my 1986 442

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The Fiero was designed as a small, lightweight sports car. It had a Buick Grand National motor coupled to a 5 speed transverse mounted transmission. The front suspension was custom made double wishbone suspension with big brakes and big tires.

One day, a Pontiac executive showed up at the test facility, and insisted he was going to drive the prototype. He quite literally scared the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) out of himself. He proclaimed as he walked away "That car is too fast. You are not building it!" So the engineers pulled the Grand National engine and put in the Pontiac Iron Duke 4 cylinder, smaller brakes, smaller fuel efficient tires, and sold it to management as a "commuter car".

Then the bean counters got a hold of it and it got front suspension parts from a Chevette, and the transmission and brakes from a Citation. And that is what they sold to the public.

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post Jun 15 2016, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(mbseto @ Jun 15 2016, 09:21 AM) *

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Tell me more of the Diablo.
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Indeed...

I have been working on my Diablo for about 4 years now. Parts are very hard to come by. It is about 85% done. It is a beast. I had to customize the interior so I could fit. These cars aren't made for 6'4" guys.
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post Jun 15 2016, 03:44 PM
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Jun 15 2016, 04:35 PM) *

The Fiero was designed as a small, lightweight sports car. It had a Buick Grand National motor coupled to a 5 speed transverse mounted transmission. The front suspension was custom made double wishbone suspension with big brakes and big tires.

One day, a Pontiac executive showed up at the test facility, and insisted he was going to drive the prototype. He quite literally scared the (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stromberg.gif) out of himself. He proclaimed as he walked away "That car is too fast. You are not building it!" So the engineers pulled the Grand National engine and put in the Pontiac Iron Duke 4 cylinder, smaller brakes, smaller fuel efficient tires, and sold it to management as a "commuter car".

Then the bean counters got a hold of it and it got front suspension parts from a Chevette, and the transmission and brakes from a Citation. And that is what they sold to the public.

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The GNX is one of my top 5 favorites. The Grand National is a right up there.
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post Jun 15 2016, 04:02 PM
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Here I go posting another picture of my Fiero on the 914world site (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

There not bad cars, I found this one in a field back in 2008. The 2.8 was dead and I sourced a 4.5 from some late 80's something (Cadillac I think?). It's been running the V8-5spd ever since. I've put more than 75k miles on it.

This one is an 88' with the better (vented) rotors and updated suspension.

Sort of like the 914, they don't get the respect they deserve and there are too many incorrect myths surrounding the model.



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post Jun 15 2016, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(Root_Werks @ Jun 15 2016, 02:02 PM) *

Here I go posting another picture of my Fiero on the 914world site (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

There not bad cars, I found this one in a field back in 2008. The 2.8 was dead and I sourced a 4.5 from some late 80's something (Cadillac I think?). It's been running the V8-5spd ever since. I've put more than 75k miles on it.

This one is an 88' with the better (vented) rotors and updated suspension.

Sort of like the 914, they don't get the respect they deserve and there are too many incorrect myths surrounding the model.

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I had an '88 (last year) put over 100k miles on it,a Little fun car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I used the same layout and design for the cooling system in my 914 that the Fiero used

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post Jun 15 2016, 08:40 PM
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Yeah,so,like,the Lamborghini Miura was drawn and designed in 1963 and introduced in '65,a mid-engine transverse V12,with perfect weight distribution.
This one is Sir Rod Stewart's '71 SV,and is available.

https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...pd+transmission
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...verse+transaxle
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...verse+transaxle
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome...verse+transaxle
https://www.google.ca/search?q=lamborghini+...Vg7CpEQ_AUIBigB
https://www.google.ca/search?q=fiero+chassi...boEjmMXaPFiM%3A
https://www.google.ca/search?q=transverse+m...M-YLpY67BbuM%3A
https://www.google.ca/search?q=lamborghini+...XniayPViS8BM%3A
https://www.google.ca/search?q=lancia+strat...VToS2fmCmuwM%3A
A transverse mid-engine does have advantages,get some soon.
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