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Turbo Tie Rods, Where to buy |
chris914 |
Apr 8 2005, 02:50 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 489 Joined: 24-July 04 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 2,393 Region Association: Southern California |
Has anyone bought the turbo tie rods from Performance Products? Are they the better quality ones?
Does anyone in San Diego have the wrench I can borrow? |
StratPlayer |
Apr 8 2005, 03:12 PM
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StratPlayer Group: Members Posts: 3,278 Joined: 27-December 02 From: SLC, Utah Member No.: 27 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Try Pelican Parts I'm sure they have them and quality as well.
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Joe Bob |
Apr 8 2005, 03:15 PM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Unless you get them from Performance on one of the sales...you'll get bent over....
Try Pelican or GPR. |
mk114 |
Apr 8 2005, 03:18 PM
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LOST in NO space (my garage) Group: Members Posts: 330 Joined: 29-March 05 From: Salt Lake Utah Member No.: 3,835 |
Tweeks has them for 119.00 But are they any good?
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TravisNeff |
Apr 8 2005, 03:41 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
You want to be sure and get the OEM versions. They have castellated nuts and cotter pins. The knock off ones have a nylon lock nut only.
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eeyore |
Apr 8 2005, 03:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Since you should get the car aligned once the new tie rods are installed, take the car and parts to an alignment shop and let them do the whole shebang. |
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anthony |
Apr 8 2005, 04:43 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
You only need to adjust toe after a tie rod install. That's pretty easy for a DIYer.
AFAIK, GPR sells the good Lemforder Turbo tie-rods. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 8 2005, 04:53 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Turbo tie rods were OEM? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif) |
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anthony |
Apr 8 2005, 04:57 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
There were on a 930 Turbo!
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TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 8 2005, 04:59 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Well damn! I've never got take one of those apart! |
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eeyore |
Apr 8 2005, 05:09 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Correct! Sort of. Setting toe isn't simply measuring front and back of the tires and twisting rod ends until there is a 1/8" difference. There's that whole issue about setting toe and getting the car to track straight AND having the steering wheel centered. Furthermore, for a street car, toe settings should not be identical due to uneven weight -- driver, no passenger -- and to compesate for the crown that roadways tend to have, which would push the car to the edge of the road. So this messy wrenching and trial-and-error stuff is well worth $80 and the 2 block trip to the alignment shop for me. (Plus I don't have a 45mm spanner). (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif) |
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TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 8 2005, 05:34 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Road crown can be compensated for with caster. Caster keeps the car in a straight forward movement. We used to set caster with a half degree more on the passenger side to do this, but it is not as important as it used to be, as highways and interstates, and divided highways are crowned both directions these days. Left lane crowns to the left, right lane to the right, and centerlane? Too much caster makes it hard to turn. Not enough makes it impossible for the car to track. Toe is simply whether the wheels are paralell with each other and keeps the car from wandering left to right. Toe can easily be set with a simple jig and tape measure. Steering wheel can be centered with a simple road test. |
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eeyore |
Apr 8 2005, 05:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
Zut alors!
I checked my settings and found the difference in the caster, not toe. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/alfred.gif) |
Trekkor |
Apr 8 2005, 06:01 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
Got mine at HPH...
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blk'72 |
Apr 8 2005, 06:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 2-November 04 From: Pleasanton, CA Member No.: 3,053 |
Hey guys how much time does turbo tie rods swap takes for diy's?
Cloudbuster are you Francais? good info on this thread! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) R. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Apr 8 2005, 06:43 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Depends on your abilities and cooperation from the old stuff. My first time took 5 hours. Last one took 2 hours (not counting resetting the toe). Setting toe takes me an hour. I take my time, and do several test drives. Always use locktite on the rack end. |
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TravisNeff |
Apr 8 2005, 08:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,082 Joined: 20-March 03 From: Mesa, AZ Member No.: 447 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Mine took 2 hours, but I cheated and dropped the whole suspension off of one car and put it on the other, then put the old stuff back on the other car. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool.gif)
I had some cheap wrenches I bought from HF and they were thin enough that I didn't need to get a special 1 use $50 wrench. You can take a grinder to a wrench as well, that still is cheaper to replace than purchasing the special tool. Shouldn't take longer than an hour or two, take measurements first before you disasemble, your life will be a little easier when you get that done. If you don't we get to call you "gimpy" |
eeyore |
Apr 8 2005, 09:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
I cheated, doubly.
I did the balljoints, tie rods and master cylinder. I had intended to do the bushings as well, so I had crossmember and a-arms off. It was still a PITA to get the TTR boots onto the steering rack. I'm not sure if this is recommended, but you could grind down the spacers to the same diameter as the TTR ends. That way I could use a really big Crescent wrench instead of a thin spanner. |
jgiroux67 |
Apr 8 2005, 09:08 PM
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Guitar Shredder Group: Members Posts: 593 Joined: 4-June 04 From: Turlock, CA Member No.: 2,157 |
So which tie rods should I get? I changed to 911 supsension with the 3.5 spacing and the steering arms are farther in so the tie rods have to be shorter. Should I get tie rods for a 9ll or just shorten the 914 ones?
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eeyore |
Apr 8 2005, 09:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 889 Joined: 8-January 04 From: meridian, id Member No.: 1,533 Region Association: None |
The turbo tie rod kit for the 914 comes with spacers that are 4mm or so thick. I think that makes up the difference, and the tie rods themselves are the same for 911 and 914.
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