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> Hot Summer; Hot, Overheating V-8 Radiator Setup., Hot Summer; Hot, Overheating V-8 Radiator Setup.
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post Jul 26 2016, 08:35 PM
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Can anyone divulge details on the Renegade Hybrid radiator system such as dimensions, Inlet and outlet sizes and rad type (number of rows, if cross flow etc...). Is it even allowed ;-)?

This hot summer has proven that my system cannot handle it. I have some good components such as a 2000 cfm, 9 blade fan out of a Ford Taurus. The remote mechanical water pump is a standard R.H. unit. I also have a Griffin radiator, model 125241-H... no radiator cap (inlet=1.5" and outlet=1.75").

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/gri-1-25241-x

The dimensions are 16"x 27.5" x 3". it is a 2 row unit. Although the inlet/outlet sizes are different, the hoses carrying coolant from front to rear are all the same size at 1.25 inch diameter. The Tech rep at Griffin seems to think that the rad should be fine but I ain't no 4 core unit either.

The other part of this is the car has a Chalon kit installed. I question whether the bumper opening for rad air is sufficiently sized. The opening is ducted to the bulkhead opening. The inner fender walls are fully open to allow the air to exit.

From all that I've read; the viable solutions is to either go with a RH rad setup (or as close to as possible) and/or go with an electric water pump. I think I have some (most) of what RH would sell me as there rad kit. The only difference I can see is the rad size/type and the bumper opening size.

Pictures of my current setup can be found here:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...132273&hl=#

I feel like I am close to getting this figured out. Just a bit more tinkering is needed.

Thanks!
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BRAVE_HELIOS   Hot Summer; Hot, Overheating V-8 Radiator Setup.   Jul 26 2016, 08:35 PM
Mike Bellis   Your radiator should be big enough. Mechanical pum...   Jul 26 2016, 09:21 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Interesting. What year GTS? Did you pick it up at ...   Jul 26 2016, 09:51 PM
messix   link doesnt go to build thread   Jul 26 2016, 09:37 PM
messix   the pictures of your set up show that there is uns...   Jul 26 2016, 09:54 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Yes, but since those pictures were taken, I added ...   Jul 26 2016, 10:06 PM
76-914   Yes, but since those pictures were taken, I added...   Jul 27 2016, 08:04 AM
Mike Bellis   Mine is an ebay special http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-...   Jul 26 2016, 10:00 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, what are th...   Jul 26 2016, 10:03 PM
Mike Bellis   Thanks for the info. Out of curiosity, what are t...   Jul 26 2016, 10:05 PM
Mike Bellis   Radiator install http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ind...   Jul 26 2016, 10:02 PM
Mike Bellis   What pressure is your cap? Do you run a water wet...   Jul 26 2016, 10:09 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Not sure what a wetter is. Coolant additive? Yes. ...   Jul 26 2016, 10:16 PM
Mike Bellis   Not sure what a wetter is. Coolant additive? Yes....   Jul 26 2016, 10:21 PM
cali914   Can anyone divulge details on the Renegade Hybrid...   Jul 27 2016, 12:47 AM
veekry9   A restrictive cooling system will overheat,in spit...   Jul 27 2016, 12:59 AM
Chris914n6   Post pics of the whole system please.   Jul 27 2016, 01:35 AM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Here are some pictures I took today. The holes i...   Jul 27 2016, 01:57 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   So; Iv'e been looking at the replies along wit...   Jul 29 2016, 08:22 PM
cali914   Make sure your fill is higher than your radiator a...   Jul 27 2016, 09:28 AM
1stworks   Heres my in and out on renegade set up.96 deg I ru...   Jul 27 2016, 09:43 AM
cali914   Heres my in and out on renegade set up.96 deg I r...   Jul 27 2016, 09:49 AM
Andyrew   If after you've done all of Mike's suggest...   Jul 27 2016, 09:43 AM
BIGKAT_83   Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your pro...   Jul 27 2016, 02:49 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Bob, Is the header tank the same as the expansion...   Jul 27 2016, 06:21 PM
d914   Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your pr...   Jul 27 2016, 03:26 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   It's great to get solid reliable information f...   Jul 27 2016, 04:48 PM
914forme   It's great to get solid reliable information ...   Jul 27 2016, 05:06 PM
Chris H.   Throw that inline filler neck away that,s your p...   Jul 28 2016, 06:34 PM
Mueller   Is this Felix's old car? Sure looks like the o...   Jul 27 2016, 04:59 PM
d914   I'll let him explain but it constantly purges ...   Jul 27 2016, 06:30 PM
BIGKAT_83   The header tank is the same as a expansion tank. T...   Jul 27 2016, 07:21 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Bob, More details please! 1. Manufacture of ...   Jul 27 2016, 08:49 PM
billium01   Maybe its something else like a blown head gasket?...   Jul 27 2016, 09:06 PM
Mike Bellis   Tony, I see from your pics you have the big block ...   Jul 27 2016, 11:18 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   The pump is only 2-3 years old. Lots of replies o...   Jul 28 2016, 09:16 AM
Reverend Troublemaker   It doesn't matter if its 1 day old...its a mec...   Jul 28 2016, 11:25 AM
veekry9   [url=http://210.101.116.115/fisita/pdf/H202.pdf...   Jul 28 2016, 06:45 AM
veekry9   Restriction to 3/4"id? Neckdown to 3/4...   Jul 28 2016, 08:03 AM
Reverend Troublemaker   Your radiator is fine, as is your supply lines, in...   Jul 28 2016, 08:15 AM
d914   Jags that run have some nice adapters also.. turne...   Jul 28 2016, 08:58 AM
BIGKAT_83   Here are a few pictures of my radiator install. Th...   Jul 28 2016, 09:16 AM
Chris914n6   Confuchris say "Eureka you got it all wrong...   Jul 30 2016, 12:56 AM
Reverend Troublemaker   This is fairly easy to follow - your engine doesn...   Jul 30 2016, 07:26 AM
Reverend Troublemaker   This is from an old Renegade diagram but the basic...   Jul 30 2016, 07:26 AM
veekry9   The lines to the header tanks at each end are ...   Jul 30 2016, 07:52 AM
v82go   This is the system I built for mine. The puke/de...   Jul 30 2016, 09:29 AM
Chris H.   Nice setup Bob! Sorry to hijack but would you...   Jul 30 2016, 09:51 AM
veekry9   Looks good,tho I gotta ask.How does the air get...   Jul 30 2016, 09:56 AM
Chris H.   I think he said it's the highest point, low pr...   Jul 30 2016, 10:07 AM
Reverend Troublemaker   This is not as complex as it may seem...it is also...   Jul 30 2016, 10:40 AM
cali914   This is not as complex as it may seem...it is als...   Jul 30 2016, 06:23 PM
v82go   Hi The puke tank is pressurized and since being h...   Jul 30 2016, 10:45 AM
Andyrew   Hi The puke tank is pressurized and since being ...   Jul 30 2016, 01:06 PM
Chris H.   Thank you Bob! Very clean install. Nice work...   Jul 30 2016, 11:09 AM
BIGKAT_83   I cut a spare hood for a 2012 ford GT 500 hood ven...   Jul 30 2016, 02:10 PM
cali914   I cut a spare hood for a 2012 ford GT 500 hood ve...   Jul 30 2016, 06:26 PM
Reverend Troublemaker   My car is a race car, more than anything else, and...   Jul 30 2016, 07:29 PM
cali914   My car is a race car, more than anything else, an...   Jul 30 2016, 11:48 PM
jdunn   More good information here: http://www.914world.c...   Jul 30 2016, 09:21 PM
Reverend Troublemaker   Cali: The coolant temp depends on the air temp and...   Jul 31 2016, 05:51 AM
jd74914   LS engines make their best power HOT; 230 is wher...   Aug 1 2016, 07:07 AM
914forme   Only thing with hood venting is you can feel the h...   Jul 31 2016, 02:25 PM
Reverend Troublemaker   That hasn't been my experience at all...my foo...   Jul 31 2016, 02:32 PM
Andyrew   Its been my experience that you can feel the heat....   Jul 31 2016, 02:53 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Dang, I can't believe all of the responses... ...   Jul 31 2016, 06:59 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Hey all, I had a chance to draw up what I think w...   Aug 8 2016, 05:07 PM
Chris914n6   Header tank goes inline = same hose. I'd say o...   Aug 8 2016, 05:15 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   I believe that is what I show with what I have mar...   Aug 8 2016, 05:23 PM
BIGKAT_83   Hey all, I had a chance to draw up what I think ...   Aug 8 2016, 06:11 PM
Chris914n6   I'll admit I don't have a sbc, so I don...   Aug 8 2016, 07:55 PM
veekry9   :D In and Out holes. :) A handy and ne...   Aug 11 2016, 05:49 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Thanks veekry9! Your expansion tank connection...   Aug 13 2016, 03:58 PM
914forme   VW Death Star, works great.   Aug 13 2016, 04:59 PM
Chris914n6   MR2 system. MORE PICS http://www.914world.com/bbs...   Aug 13 2016, 05:22 PM
veekry9   Great pix,and a way to scale the requirements for ...   Aug 13 2016, 06:08 PM
Chris914n6   Great pix,and a way to scale the requirements for...   Aug 13 2016, 08:11 PM
Rand   You do not know of which you ask! (or you do?...   Aug 13 2016, 08:19 PM
veekry9   Cooling? BraveHelios was inquiring advice.None to ...   Aug 13 2016, 09:07 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Almost ready to take things apart one more time. S...   Aug 24 2016, 04:50 PM
Andyrew   Almost ready to take things apart one more time. ...   Aug 24 2016, 09:59 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Slowly progressing. Quick question; which part of...   Aug 28 2016, 04:30 PM
Chris914n6   I have a couple of those from ebay. Ask them what ...   Aug 24 2016, 09:16 PM
Andyrew   That upper hose. Either of those mounted in that p...   Aug 28 2016, 04:41 PM
veekry9   Not less than N. The method to calculate the size ...   Aug 28 2016, 05:33 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   Here is a picture of the completed setup. Still tr...   Sep 18 2016, 05:58 PM
Andyrew   Here is a picture of the completed setup. Still t...   Sep 18 2016, 10:46 PM
Chris H.   Yes just fill the system up and run it through a c...   Sep 19 2016, 12:16 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   An update (pictures to follow); I have the system...   Sep 28 2016, 11:26 AM
v82go   Do you have a manual over-ride switch for your fan...   Sep 29 2016, 07:32 AM
Andyrew   Put one of these powering a 12ga wire and a relay ...   Sep 29 2016, 07:52 AM
socal1200r   I had similar overheating issues with a 2000 Sonom...   Sep 29 2016, 08:05 AM
Andyrew   Quick question. How fast is it getting up to temp?...   Sep 29 2016, 08:17 AM
cali914   Man with all the money and time your spending get ...   Sep 29 2016, 08:28 AM
v82go   One more note/ I would remove the thermostat a...   Sep 29 2016, 09:13 AM
BRAVE_HELIOS   I do have a manual switch. It is located on the ce...   Sep 29 2016, 06:44 PM
Mike Bellis   When is the last time you replace your water pump?...   Sep 29 2016, 08:28 PM
jimkelly   hum :idea: When is the last time you replace y...   Sep 29 2016, 08:33 PM
BRAVE_HELIOS   God, if I have to take apart the water pump one mo...   Sep 29 2016, 09:03 PM
matthepcat   When is the last time you replace your water pump...   Sep 29 2016, 09:13 PM
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