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> A Porsche in the woods you say?
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post Sep 22 2016, 06:56 PM
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Accessible only by ATV you say? I know it's not a 914, but thought you guys might like to see one more saved, in this case an early Pre-A.
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post Sep 23 2016, 02:47 PM
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At that point, you're just restoring it as a template to create a new car. It reminds my of the Stephen Wright joke (paraphrased), last night someone snuck into my garage and replaced all my cars with identical copies.
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post Sep 23 2016, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(mbseto @ Sep 23 2016, 12:47 PM) *

At that point, you're just restoring it as a template to create a new car. It reminds my of the Stephen Wright joke (paraphrased), last night someone snuck into my garage and replaced all my cars with identical copies.


Matt is right, what you have here is some metal that bears a strong resemblance to an early 356. When that car is reconfigured with new reproduction sheetmetal, period-correct interior components, and hard and soft trim items, virtually the only original piece on the car will be the VIN.

When it is completed, it will be no more a PORSCHE than the Beck 550 spyders or 356 Speedsters.

Someone with more money than sense will spend far too much money on what amounts to a reproduction automobile rather than a restored vehicle or even a "tribute" or "clone", since there will be virtually no Porsche DNA left in the final product.

And the final bit of irony is that the final purchaser of that "reconfiguration" will look down on a 914 and think that the 914 is "not a real Porsche".

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post Sep 23 2016, 10:39 PM
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Sep 23 2016, 08:46 PM) *

QUOTE(mbseto @ Sep 23 2016, 12:47 PM) *

At that point, you're just restoring it as a template to create a new car. It reminds my of the Stephen Wright joke (paraphrased), last night someone snuck into my garage and replaced all my cars with identical copies.


Matt is right, what you have here is some metal that bears a strong resemblance to an early 356. When that car is reconfigured with new reproduction sheetmetal, period-correct interior components, and hard and soft trim items, virtually the only original piece on the car will be the VIN.

When it is completed, it will be no more a PORSCHE than the Beck 550 spyders or 356 Speedsters.

Someone with more money than sense will spend far too much money on what amounts to a reproduction automobile rather than a restored vehicle or even a "tribute" or "clone", since there will be virtually no Porsche DNA left in the final product.

And the final bit of irony is that the final purchaser of that "reconfiguration" will look down on a 914 and think that the 914 is "not a real Porsche".

Paul


Wow, you have a chip on your shoulder the size of Rhode Island. Get over yourself, lots of people like both the 356 and 914s equally. I have never heard a 356 owner disparage a 914 either.

and YES I own a 356 and a 914 as well as some other Porsches.

And yes they are all Porsches!
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post Sep 23 2016, 11:41 PM
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and YES I own a 356 and a 914 as well as some other Porsches.

And yes they are all Porsches!


You miss my point, when that car is reconstituted it will not be a 356, rather it will just look like a 356. Similarly, I've been to PCA events where the "cognoscenti" will fawn over a Beck 550 with a VW engine, that I will admit was well executed, but it is not a Porsche, it just looks like a Porsche.

I assume you are familiar with the term for "knock-off" high end timepieces, leather goods, designer clothing, etc.? Counterfeit?...."something false or copied that pretends to be genuine". That's what that car in the woods will be if it gets to be reconfigured to look like a 356. And someone will probably pay north of 100 large to buy it. But Porsche mania does not have an exclusive right to this sort of insanity as more than a couple very high end Italian cars have been reconstituted with little more than a few frame fragments and a chassis number.

And finally, I guess I must have a chip on my shoulder because authenticity, originality and integrity are highly prized by me when it comes to automobile valuation.

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Unobtanium-inc   A Porsche in the woods you say?   Sep 22 2016, 06:56 PM
billh1963   It's amazing the cars that are being discovere...   Sep 22 2016, 06:59 PM
Unobtanium-inc   It's amazing the cars that are being discover...   Sep 22 2016, 07:03 PM
keely444   Very cool find.What is next?   Sep 22 2016, 07:03 PM
siverson   That is really cool. -Steve   Sep 22 2016, 07:12 PM
mangrum   It's always good to hear of rescuing these car...   Sep 23 2016, 10:31 AM
iwanta914-6   How on earth do you find them? Do you have to k...   Sep 23 2016, 10:43 AM
Unobtanium-inc   How on earth do you find them? Do you have to ...   Sep 27 2016, 06:15 PM
bretth   Awesome find. Damn kids jumped on the poor car...   Sep 23 2016, 10:49 AM
Root_Werks   Was talking with a local 356 restore guy just this...   Sep 23 2016, 11:07 AM
relentless   Somewhere over near Keno, Oregon, there was a 356 ...   Sep 23 2016, 11:20 AM
mbseto   At that point, you're just restoring it as a t...   Sep 23 2016, 02:47 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   At that point, you're just restoring it as a ...   Sep 23 2016, 09:46 PM
Catorse   At that point, you're just restoring it as a...   Sep 23 2016, 10:39 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   and YES I own a 356 and a 914 as well as some o...   Sep 23 2016, 11:41 PM
KELTY360   So, where do you draw the line? We assume the VIN ...   Sep 24 2016, 09:30 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   If someone media blasted that car (I'd love to...   Sep 24 2016, 09:48 AM
KELTY360   If someone media blasted that car (I'd love t...   Sep 24 2016, 12:24 PM
jmitro   I, for one, LOVE these finds and rescues missions....   Sep 24 2016, 02:11 PM
Johny Blackstain   I just hope she can be saved. :thumbsup:   Sep 24 2016, 01:33 PM
BK911   Wow. 99% of that *car* will be replaced. Keep the ...   Sep 24 2016, 04:00 PM
KELTY360   Wow. 99% of that *car* will be replaced. Keep the...   Sep 24 2016, 05:56 PM
Vysoc   Great conversation :popcorn: I love the PURE Por...   Sep 24 2016, 04:05 PM
Catorse   The 356 in that picture will have lots of good met...   Sep 24 2016, 06:50 PM
bandjoey   Museum piece Collectors garage Fireplace mantle a...   Sep 24 2016, 07:22 PM
My 914   Agreed. If the owner is happy with the project an...   Sep 25 2016, 07:41 AM
Mikey914   Where do you draw the line- Basically if you have ...   Sep 25 2016, 09:30 AM
bretth   It's automotive archeology. Many other cars in...   Sep 25 2016, 09:48 AM
Larmo63   I'm getting rid of the 914 Rubber on my car. ...   Sep 25 2016, 09:48 AM
jmitro   I'm getting rid of the 914 Rubber on my car. ...   Sep 25 2016, 12:02 PM
DirtyCossack   Was Darth Vader still Anakin Skywalker? I had a p...   Sep 25 2016, 12:24 PM
DirtyCossack   So when is it a VIN swap? Let's say I have a...   Sep 25 2016, 12:48 PM
jack20   I have a late friend who "restored"class...   Sep 25 2016, 04:47 PM
JmuRiz   I'm with jack20, 356s are like 914s only havin...   Sep 25 2016, 06:58 PM
mbseto   VIN swap is not a technical concept, it's a mo...   Sep 26 2016, 08:29 AM
jd74914   Ignoring the idea of if the final car is truly a P...   Sep 26 2016, 08:55 AM
era vulgaris   Dragging stuff like this out of the woods is pre...   Sep 26 2016, 10:07 AM
Unobtanium-inc   I want everyone to closely read and look at the pi...   Sep 27 2016, 06:12 PM
Garland   Check out 550-0001. WOW!   Sep 27 2016, 09:18 PM
bretth   Amazing that they did away with the whole aluminum...   Sep 27 2016, 10:35 PM


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