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> Re-clipped car and VIN number
ThePaintedMan
post Sep 25 2016, 08:07 AM
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So this weekend did not turn out well for one of our members Shane (JetsetSurfShop). We ran his awesome car at the 14 Hours of Sebring and unfortunately a driver suffered and off which bent the front of the car in pretty bad. In my opinion, the simplest, most cost effective fix is to replace the front clip with that of another car. Luckily there are several options nearby.

I know that Shane has not thought that far ahead yet and I'm sure he is still very upset about this weekend. But though I didn't drive the car, he's a good friend of mine, and I'd like to help him get it back on the road. The question is, when a clip is changed on a car, is this the one and only time it is then acceptable to cut out the old VIN and swap it to remain with the chassis? Or is the acceptable practice to retain the vin stamped fender with the new front clip on the old chassis?



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post Sep 26 2016, 07:04 AM
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Yup, good responses here folks. I am honestly asking out of complete ignorance - never got that far into something like this before.

I wasn't able to get pictures of the inner fenders at the track, but the passenger one is pushed back with a good 2-3 inches of "foldover" and the rear of the control arm mount has been torn from the body. The driver side isn't much better. It does seem possible that the fender can be straightened but my initial thought was that it would be easier to just cut those spot welds and do the whole clip at once.

Indeed I would never want to deceive someone about the history of a car. Anyone who would buy a track car down the road would probably expect some prior damage, but the physical evidence of a major change like that shouldn't be hidden from the buyer. I know Shane would never do that. But the guy who bought it from that guy may not be given that same narrative, so I can see the point of retaining the swapped vin number along with the other photographic documentation.

I hope that my post didn't come across as deceptive. Just want to help this guy make it right and do it "right".

If there is any positive, it was really interesting to see how the fronts of these cars deform in an impact as comprehensive as this one. For such a seemingly flimsy front end, you can see how it all works together to keep the driver safe. The DS wasn't hit nearly as bad as the passenger, but it shared a good brunt of the deformation, dissipating energy along the way. It's the price we pay for thin sheet metal, but it's also why these cars are so light and run circles around the bigger BMWs and Mustangs (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Sep 27 2016, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ Sep 26 2016, 06:04 AM) *
Just want to help this guy make it right and do it "right".

Like i said above, i've seen much worse pulled back into spec.

You'll still have to replace a whole lot of mangled sheetmetal but as long as you can get the suspension pickup points back to where they should be, you'll be fine.

No need to clip anything.
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ThePaintedMan   Re-clipped car and VIN number   Sep 25 2016, 08:07 AM
Cairo94507   Wow- so sorry to see that picture. IMHO, for what...   Sep 25 2016, 09:47 AM
r_towle   Sorry, never acceptable but spend a bit more and r...   Sep 25 2016, 10:37 AM
mb911   I always find this interesting as in the mustang a...   Sep 25 2016, 10:42 AM
SixerJ   I always find this interesting as in the mustang ...   Sep 27 2016, 12:38 AM
SirAndy   I would try to put it on a Celette bench and pull ...   Sep 25 2016, 11:23 AM
cary   I would try to put it on a Celette bench and pull...   Sep 26 2016, 08:14 AM
boogie_man   I would try to put it on a Celette bench and pull...   Sep 27 2016, 11:21 AM
Chris914n6   Just weld the VIN on top of the replacement clip V...   Sep 25 2016, 02:34 PM
GermermanCarGuy   Just weld the VIN on top of the replacement clip ...   Sep 25 2016, 02:53 PM
rgalla9146   Make the repair forward of the stamped VIN ?   Sep 25 2016, 03:07 PM
Mikey914   Honestly looks like the vin stamp may not be affec...   Sep 25 2016, 03:17 PM
Cracker   George - Bummer. I too believe that can be "f...   Sep 26 2016, 06:22 AM
ThePaintedMan   Yup, good responses here folks. I am honestly aski...   Sep 26 2016, 07:04 AM
SirAndy   Just want to help this guy make it right and do it...   Sep 27 2016, 11:15 AM
FourBlades   That is a total bummer! My wife and I were ...   Sep 26 2016, 09:33 PM
ThePaintedMan   Gotcha, thanks guys. It would indeed be really coo...   Sep 27 2016, 12:16 PM
SirAndy   Gotcha, thanks guys. It would indeed be really coo...   Sep 27 2016, 12:26 PM
carr914   Gotcha, thanks guys. It would indeed be really co...   Sep 27 2016, 05:24 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   George is right. It hasn't really sank in that...   Sep 27 2016, 06:49 PM
SirAndy   I'll post a few pictures of the damage. That i...   Sep 27 2016, 07:20 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Another.   Sep 27 2016, 06:50 PM
andrew15   That's crappy :( What about sourcing a donor ...   Sep 27 2016, 06:57 PM
carr914   This the Steel Bumper (with cut-out) & Front L...   Sep 27 2016, 07:58 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   This the Steel Bumper (with cut-out) & Front ...   Sep 28 2016, 06:59 PM
FourBlades   There are other repair benches besides cellete tha...   Sep 28 2016, 06:48 PM
FourBlades   Here is the front panel I have: It is a little ...   Sep 28 2016, 06:53 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Here is the front panel I have: It is a little...   Sep 28 2016, 07:02 PM
FourBlades   Fenders. Unfortunately they are not full length, ...   Sep 28 2016, 07:05 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Fenders. Unfortunately they are not full length,...   Sep 28 2016, 07:12 PM
carr914   This the Steel Bumper (with cut-out) & Front...   Sep 28 2016, 07:06 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   It looks like the car is savable. Had a body guy l...   Sep 28 2016, 07:17 PM
mepstein   If you saw what Bob and Nadine went through to reb...   Sep 28 2016, 07:29 PM
FourBlades   I also have 1 headlight bucket. Am I correct in t...   Sep 28 2016, 07:47 PM
Cairo94507   You are correct, there are different headlight buc...   Sep 28 2016, 08:35 PM
FourBlades   What year do they switch sizes? Shane, what year ...   Sep 28 2016, 08:41 PM
FourBlades   See dimensions:   Sep 28 2016, 08:47 PM
euro911   Oh come on ... that'll buff out :rolleyes: I...   Sep 28 2016, 09:48 PM
larryM   race car - OR - Street registered driver? is it ...   Sep 28 2016, 10:07 PM
Cracker   Shane You haven't detailed what you meant by...   Sep 29 2016, 05:30 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   Shane You haven't detailed what you meant b...   Sep 29 2016, 11:41 AM
Cracker   Well said and agree... Tony Counting pennies be...   Sep 29 2016, 11:49 AM
larryM   The driver that crashed the car is going to pay ...   Oct 1 2016, 04:56 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   The driver that crashed the car is going to pay...   Oct 1 2016, 05:48 PM
carr914   Shane You haven't detailed what you meant ...   Sep 29 2016, 05:20 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   I think the hit was bigger then I first thought.   Sep 29 2016, 05:33 PM
SirAndy   I think the hit was bigger then I first thought. ...   Sep 29 2016, 08:08 PM
restore2seater   I think the hit was bigger then I first thought. ...   Sep 29 2016, 10:50 PM
larryM   I think the hit was bigger then I first thought. ...   Oct 1 2016, 04:51 PM
dlee6204   I think the hit was bigger then I first thought....   Sep 30 2016, 03:47 AM
SirAndy   What is the black goo dripping down from the tran...   Sep 30 2016, 11:15 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   [quote name='dlee6204' post='2405109' date='Sep 3...   Oct 1 2016, 05:55 PM
rick 918-S   I haven't had time to finish the pulls yet. th...   Sep 30 2016, 06:24 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   I haven't had time to finish the pulls yet. t...   Oct 1 2016, 05:45 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Update. We didn't have to re clip the car. Its...   Jan 11 2017, 07:23 PM
Cairo94507   Nice to see it getting back in shape. :beer2:   Jan 11 2017, 09:50 PM
AZBanks   Looks good already.   Jan 11 2017, 11:25 PM
ThePaintedMan   Wow, really turned out nice Shane! Glad it wen...   Jan 12 2017, 10:06 AM
Jetsetsurfshop   More like rattle can orange. I do have a 70s style...   Jan 12 2017, 03:56 PM


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