The 914 conversion, 3.3 Ltr suby upgrade Options

[flmont]

spent about 4 hrs trying to install my engine and cradel ( Ian Cradle) kinda of a disappointment,first stk exhaust does not clear like he said it would,and now the tranny ends are to wide apart,..Should have listen to ChrisH. So best course of action ,NOT sure yet really stalled my progress for sure...

[914forme]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That is why I built my own. And well because I wanted to do the installation at least 20 times. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

It is so nice to see an engine in the car for the first time

[flmont]

yes,..Thanks my problem is I cant weld,dont have a shop or a lift,or the tools..Oh yea a little lite on brain power too,..LOL Ill find a way to bring thos ends togather

[flmont]

Now for the exhaust can I have a spacer made, it needs to drop about 3/4 of a Inch

[BIGKAT_83]

Outfront makes 2 different headers for the EG33. One set that exits to the front of the engine and another that exits to the rear. This is for rear or mid engine buggys.
If you used the front exits the header would be pointed forward to the front of the car. Then you could fab up a smaller pipe and muffler around the mount you have pictured.
You shot yourself in the foot by selling those small car mounts think you would have been way better of with them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

[JRust]

Looking at the picture of the cradle. It is supposed to be on the topside of your tranny ears. Looks to me if it is sitting up at the mounts. It doesn't look that off to me? As will when it is up higher. Maybe I am seeing it all wrong too. Sorry to see your having trouble there. I've got his cradle as well. Haven't gotten everything mounted up yet

[76-914]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That is why I built my own. And well because I wanted to do the installation at least 20 times. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

It is so nice to see an engine in the car for the first time

That sounds about right, Stephen. 20 times is par for the course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[76-914]

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) That is why I built my own. And well because I wanted to do the installation at least 20 times. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)

It is so nice to see an engine in the car for the first time

That sounds about right, Stephen. 20 times is par for the course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[mgp4591]

Isn't Ians cradle designed to be used with the Subie transmission as well? Not to mention a 4cyl or the EZ30 style 6 instead of the EG33... I know mods can be made and this is one that's gonna need some work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

[flmont]

Iam pretty sure Ian site said EG33 Iam sure I can get the ends pulled together,Its the damn exhaust set-up that really screws me at this point.could I use a spacer on the exhaust manifold to drop them a bit I need about 3/4 of and inch.

[Chris H.]

The Coldwater is fine for every Subaru engine except the EG33. There are two problems with it that would be pretty hard to correct. That's why mine is hanging on the wall of my garage.

1. The exhaust. Unless you want to get some headers custom made to clear it's not going to work.

2. The engine is too far forward, nearly touching the firewall. You'll have a hell of a time plumbing it that way.

Renegade Hybrids has a cradle for a 901 setup but I agree with Bob, you should consider the smallcar mount attached to either an early engine mount bar or something like that. Take a look at the way amenson did his. You could drill a couple of holes and bolt it to the mount bar, then take it somewhere to get it professionally welded.

Don't give up Frank! This is a normal part of the process.

[flmont]

Chris H. Yea Thanks,just aggravated !!
Jrust ,I honestly dont know if they are suppose to mount first and then the tranny is installed.
BigKat83 : I didnt sell the small car parts,they sent me a piece that didn NOT clear my oil filter,so they said to use a smaller( 4 Cyl subaru ) filter but it didnt work either,..

Now what if I modify the EG33 engine mounts I could possible gain 1 and a quarter inches,if I get rid of the thick black isolator part and use a smaller polyurathane bushing ,..???

I need the cradle to sit correctly before I can truely know if moding the engine mounts would work to make my exhaust clear So I gotta get that tranny mounted correctly first..

[flmont]

will this approach work for pulling the ends together,...maybe slot the ends if it comes to that ??

[jmitro]

if you are trying to narrow the mounting ears of a tube framed cradle, only way to do it correctly is cut it and reweld.

if you're looking to torque or bend those 1.5" I seriously doubt it will move that much; it also won't be a symmetrical alignment.

[flmont]

yea,..I thought so aswell,I was just trying anything I could do,.at home to try and resolve,.I didnt know how springie that tubing could be...Thanks..

[flmont]

Jmitro,..what if I tention those tubes and then heat them up alittle do you think that (might) bring them in a little bit,.???? Thanks

[76-914]

You can do that. I'd use heat sticks if you can get some. Otherwise heat just until it gets an ashy looking dull red in color. Do not get it cherry red or it will lose it's temper and become annealed. This is best seen in low light levels. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[flmont]

76-914,..I have never heard of heat sticks,.ill ck them out.. Thanks

[JRust]

I am sure they are supposed to attach direct to the tranny mount. Above the tranny ears. For the suby tranny you have to get Hangars that drop down to the lower tranny mounts on the suby trans.

Hopefully there is someone who has a 901 using the cradle out there. I found a picture from Ray's with his ez30 & suby trans

[3d914]

Frank, perhaps I can offer my welding skills. I'm just east of you in Benson. If we can get good dimensions, i can cut and reweld for you as long as it's not stainless.

Shoot me a PM if interested.

Gerard