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The 914 conversion, 3.3 Ltr suby upgrade |
Amenson |
Dec 27 2017, 03:02 PM
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That's opposite lock!! Group: Members Posts: 645 Joined: 27-May 05 From: Dublin, OH Member No.: 4,154 Region Association: None |
I am sure they are supposed to attach direct to the tranny mount. Above the tranny ears. For the suby tranny you have to get Hangars that drop down to the lower tranny mounts on the suby trans. Hopefully there is someone who has a 901 using the cradle out there. I found a picture from Ray's with his ez30 & suby trans JRust is correct, the proper mounting position is to have the the cradle on top of the 901 transmission ears. |
rnellums |
Dec 28 2017, 08:49 AM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I would caution against trying to bend the tube frame. I have Ian's first gen cradle and am beta testing his second revision and a recurring issue I see is high stresses at the welds. Forcing a bend there isn't going to help anything.
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flmont |
Dec 29 2017, 09:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
does that mean I have to worry about his welds cracking???
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flmont |
Dec 31 2017, 04:08 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Jrust ,you were correct,I wanted to make double sure,.If I had a mounting problem I did change the cradle ears to on top of the tranny ears and it pitched enough to fit and mount Exhaust ,plus the exhaust pipes are bent just enough to run under the cross bar,..Man,What a GREAT day today was,...Thanks !!!! Sure glad I checked ..!! Frank
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flmont |
Dec 31 2017, 04:13 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Plus, My Apologies to Ian,..!!!!!
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mepstein |
Dec 31 2017, 05:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,257 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Jrust ,you were correct,I wanted to make double sure,.If I had a mounting problem I did change the cradle ears to on top of the tranny ears and it pitched enough to fit and mount Exhaust ,plus the exhaust pipes are bent just enough to run under the cross bar,..Man,What a GREAT day today was,...Thanks !!!! Sure glad I checked ..!! Frank (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
76-914 |
Dec 31 2017, 05:58 PM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Check your clearance closely. The engine will lift up when accelerating and go down when decelerating. Your cutting a Fat Hog in the Ass now. Shouldn’t be too much longer. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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jimkelly |
Dec 31 2017, 07:13 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
nice progress (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
if you have a chance, can you post a few pics from directly under the exhaust manifolds so we can see what kind of clearance you have? and some from sides too? note that it is best to use what you have initially, as you can always address individual areas later on. |
flmont |
Dec 31 2017, 07:29 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Sure Jim NP. Tomorrow
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flmont |
Dec 31 2017, 07:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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914forme |
Dec 31 2017, 08:11 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Until you get it on the ground and under weight you won't really know if low works. On the EG the stock pan hangs low, as does the stock exhaust manifolds.
So my suggestion would be bolt it up loose and see what you get on the ground. IF to low for your comfort you might have to go higher. Just remember to put the larger washer up top, just incase the mount fails the large washer will hit the top of the mount, and keep the engine cradle from dragging the ground. |
flmont |
Dec 31 2017, 08:34 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks 914forme,..I actually doubled the large washer,1 top side and 1 for the bottom,..I have the car sitting on car ramps,with cradle mounted and so the suspension is being compressed now,I let that sit till next weekend,I need to run wires,finish the rad plumbing,.get Fuel hooked ETC... Thanks Frank
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914forme |
Dec 31 2017, 10:58 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
You can measure it as it sits just a bit of simple math.
Take the heights of the ramps front and back as they are different. And measure the bottom of the donuts. Then move around and start looking at what is bellow the donuts, and subtract the ramp heights and you have close to the street height for all these points. This should give you a semi accurate guess of what will be going on once off the ramps. And hopefully you have the clearance you are looking for. And then we could get into a discussion about stance, proper suspension geometry, and other little issues. BTW, once you get this running ditch the KYBs - they absolutely suck. I ran them back when I was a teenager and could not afford better. But that was a long time ago (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) and well I since learned what a good set of shocks can do. Keep up the great work, your making some awesome progress here. |
mgp4591 |
Jan 1 2018, 03:38 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,369 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
From your pic of the rear it looks like you may have enough clearance to run your pipes up and over that last horizontal piece of the cradle. With more pics of the different angles we may see something different but congrats on the new fit - progress is always good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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76-914 |
Jan 1 2018, 10:50 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,495 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
IIRC, I used 5.5" as min ground clearance which was the distance from ground to the bottom of those plastic air flaps. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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flmont |
Jan 1 2018, 10:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
914forme...What shocks would U recommend
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rnellums |
Jan 1 2018, 03:48 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Bilsteins or Konis for shocks. Bilsteins are probably all-around better, Konis have the adjustability (which most won't use).
I use the 911 sport mounts flipped up with washers to get a bit more ground clearance on my lowered car without any issues. |
flmont |
Jan 1 2018, 04:00 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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jimkelly |
Jan 1 2018, 04:38 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
i'd say sure BUT that is a parking brake cable conduit i think.
and... Attached thumbnail(s) |
rnellums |
Jan 1 2018, 04:58 PM
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Professional Enthusiast Group: Members Posts: 1,646 Joined: 26-November 09 From: Littleton, CO Member No.: 11,072 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
The other tubes with small wires coming out are for the heater boxes and I don'kt thin they'll line up very neatly with where the throttle cable should do. They also likely have too aggressive a bend radius to fit the threaded portion of the throttle cable through.
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