The 914 conversion, 3.3 Ltr suby upgrade Options

[flmont]

No Jim its off a bit the rod is bent to hell,but may work .Iam really thinking of going with a cable system..

[flmont]

thanks Rnellums,. I forgot about the heater boxes..

[rnellums]

No Jim its off a bit the rod is bent to hell,but may work .Iam really thinking of going with a cable system..

I really would rethink staying with the stock transmission if that's the case.

It seems to me like staying stock is adding a lot of complexity and weakness to your drivetrain.

Also, there does exist a cable-shifter Subaru transmission. I haven't seen it installed in a 914 yet, but the newer (2010+) legacy models were available with a 6MT that is cable.shifted and is exactly the same.size as the 5mt according to my Subaru transmission guy. Unfortunately the final drive isn't much better than the 5mt, so still no cruising gear, but something to consider.

[914forme]

Okay this has been bugging me, and it is me, stuff like this bugs me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

In this picture where the arrow points is this due the angle of the picture or is it off? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Not saying Ian stuff is off, as the stuff I had of his was top notch. And fit with in tolerances that I expeceted



Also if I remember correctly the stock EG Exhaust Manifolds are that they dump very close to the tubes. On Ian's cradle there are two tubes in that area that triangulate the joint.

Can you get around that yes, but not with out a bit of welding. Small Car makes flanges for header to build it your self. Ouffront sells headers or used too for the EG in a mid engine configuration. Outfront stuff fits much better, Chris H. has them in his build thread.



Outfront Motorsports(714) 994-5222 very easy to deal with over the phone. Their Header Page can be found here.

Small car does an excellent job also, I use their stuff all the time.

[914forme]

Answer your question you asked me.

Street - minor track usage Bilsteins. If you go wild on the rear spring rate it will require the Bilsteins be revolved.

Koni - Auto-X Race and then Street.

I autocross for years on Bilsteins, they will work.

To be honest, about anything is better than the KYBs Boge, Bilstein, Koni, Fox, Penske, I would slap a set of Autozone specials onto the car before I would use the KYBs, lol

The reasoning is the way KYBs function. The valve systems is supposed to adjust to bumps and increase the dampening after repeated bumps. Interesting concept, but the test track must have been butter smooth with a couple of repeated bumps. On the street what happens is the car moves about, every turn, bump, transition, even you just moving your butt in the seat. It all causes these valves to start increasing damping as it was meant to. Issue is that they never seem to reset back to base line, so over a period of time, they actually become almost solid. Yeah they still move a bit, yet if used in the thigh master poor Susan Sommers would have had thighs bigger than Arnold in his Mister Atlas days. It just does not work in reality as it was proposed to work in concept.

Koni, and Bilsteins can be sent out for rebuilding if you find a pair very cheap.

As of now, I run Bilsteins on my 914-6 it is a street car, that could be auto-crossed or tracked if I wanted to. I run Koni's on my 914EG project which I prefer to autocross , and track, and it gets driven on the street. Mainly driven on the street to get to the events.

[76-914]

No Jim its off a bit the rod is bent to hell,but may work .Iam really thinking of going with a cable system..

I really would rethink staying with the stock transmission if that's the case.

It seems to me like staying stock is adding a lot of complexity and weakness to your drivetrain.

Also, there does exist a cable-shifter Subaru transmission. I haven't seen it installed in a 914 yet, but the newer (2010+) legacy models were available with a 6MT that is cable.shifted and is exactly the same.size as the 5mt according to my Subaru transmission guy. Unfortunately the final drive isn't much better than the 5mt, so still no cruising gear, but something to consider.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) IIRC, Ross tried using a 901 trans early on and finally switched over so he speaks from experience. If you want a Hi Way cruiser use a Subaru trans out of a Forester. It has 3:90's vs 4:11's. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

[flmont]

914forme,...when I first fit the cradle nothing lined up and the tranny ears were off to the outside by 1.5 inches,So I used threaded rod to bring in the ears,...Then Jrust mentioned I was fitting it wrong,..cradle ears were suppose to be on top of the 901 ears,since I refitted the cradle, the cradle ears are now 1.5 inches to far in...So now I need to spread them open to fit,..No instruction's on how to fit the cradle caused me to guess,..Guessed wrong,as usual,..!!! Fits fine and clears the stk exhaust also, !!

[flmont]

76-914,..I may change in the future I have been looking at this car since 2014 it needs to get on the ground and run, I can always upgrade later...Thanks tho, Frank

[mepstein]

76-914,..I may change in the future I have been looking at this car since 2014 it needs to get on the ground and run, I can always upgrade later...Thanks tho, Frank

We all make mistakes. Keep moving forward. You will be driveng soon.

[jimkelly]

if you decide to go with suby trans, i have these. i agree, projects can drag on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[flmont]

I hope to get the rad system hooked up this weekend,using this Moroso canister,does the canister feed line go to the inlet side or the outlet side. ?? my Tee fitting fits the smaller return line ,not the larger inlet line. Thanks Frank

[flmont]

[jimkelly]

this site mentioned in the past may be helpful?
http://jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Parts_Cooling...seSplicers.html
jim

[76-914]

The bottom opening goes on the suction side/inlet side.

[Chris H.]

The best place to hook up the bottom line coming off of your coolant tank is at the water pump. There is a 5/8 line there that you can tee in to. You might want to put the canister in the engine bay so it's at the highest point possible.

[flmont]

Ah,.ok,..Thanks Chris,..and 76-914..I didn't think about the suction factor.

[914forme]

Agree with Chris engine compartment. You can run a line back from the top of the rad, into the puck tank, and complete the system.

[flmont]

sweet,..Rad system,Fuel system this weekend,run wires next weekend,clutch and throttle cables,by end of month I would hope to start trouble shooting why it doesn't run,..LOL Thanks Frank

[JRust]

Okay this has been bugging me, and it is me, stuff like this bugs me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

In this picture where the arrow points is this due the angle of the picture or is it off? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Not saying Ian stuff is off, as the stuff I had of his was top notch. And fit with in tolerances that I expeceted



Also if I remember correctly the stock EG Exhaust Manifolds are that they dump very close to the tubes. On Ian's cradle there are two tubes in that area that triangulate the joint.

Small car does an excellent job also, I use their stuff all the time.

Holy cow yeah that cradle is off. Any chance something got bent in transit? I know Ian uses a jig so it shouldn't be that far off. Not sure what happened bud. Sorry your having such issues with it. You have any luck getting ahold of him about it?

[flmont]

Jrust,...page 12 post # 233 shows me pulling these 2 ears together, with a threaded rod because I installed the cradle ears at the bottom of the tranny ears then I belive U said nope they go on the top of the tranny ears So in doing that everything fit,..

Now I must spread the cradle ears to fit the tranny ears, which I shall be doing this weekend...FM