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The 914 conversion, 3.3 Ltr suby upgrade |
flmont |
Sep 18 2018, 11:15 PM
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#481
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Hmm,..I didn't think about that..its a winter car basically with no A/C,.I will not be driving it in the summer here in Tucson,..But still a good point ,..
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flmont |
Sep 18 2018, 11:16 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
914pipe,..how did your eg33 run with that 901 trany you had in there for a while.??? Thanks Frank
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914pipe |
Sep 20 2018, 08:21 PM
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Say......TEEEEEEEN!!!!! Group: Members Posts: 346 Joined: 31-July 04 From: Puerto Rico, now NC Member No.: 2,422 Region Association: South East States |
914pipe,..how did your eg33 run with that 901 trany you had in there for a while.??? Thanks Frank The 901 handle the EG33 stock power pretty good but the shifting was killing me. It is so smooth with the WRX trans-axle that you feel like you are in another car. I had the 901 for less than a year when I moved to the WRX. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
76-914 |
Sep 21 2018, 08:54 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,485 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
914pipe,..how did your eg33 run with that 901 trany you had in there for a while.??? Thanks Frank The 901 handle the EG33 stock power pretty good but the shifting was killing me. It is so smooth with the WRX trans-axle that you feel like you are in another car. I had the 901 for less than a year when I moved to the WRX. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Amen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
flmont |
Sep 21 2018, 03:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Good to know...Thanks !!
I know what your thinking too, 76-914...I know what your think'in |
flmont |
Sep 21 2018, 06:48 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
is there much fab and welding work to do the Subaru transmission.
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mepstein |
Sep 21 2018, 07:17 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,223 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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flmont |
Sep 21 2018, 07:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Ahh yes,..But what about all that Hydraulic clutch reservoir stuff,plus mounting it all that's where I run into problems.
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effutuo101 |
Sep 21 2018, 08:13 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,734 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Scotts is the cleanest by far for a conversion build
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...421&st=1100 |
mgp4591 |
Sep 21 2018, 11:25 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,363 Joined: 1-August 12 From: Salt Lake City Ut Member No.: 14,748 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Ahh yes,..But what about all that Hydraulic clutch reservoir stuff,plus mounting it all that's where I run into problems. If you don't want to run the hydraulics for the clutch assembly, keep in mind that some of the Subaru trans (like mine in my 00 Impreza) is cable operated. One of the members here made a lever assembly that worked on the 914 cable and it worked fine. He's gone to the juice system since but at the time I drove it, the cable setup worked fine and was much cheaper. |
Chris H. |
Sep 22 2018, 08:28 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 4,027 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Chicago 'burbs Member No.: 73 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Compared to what you're dealing with now, the hydraulic clutch is not that tough. I think rnellums has been making the plate you would need for mounting the master cylinder, and we can literally give you the part numbers for the rest of the stuff thats required. Most of us just fed the hydraulic hose right through the existing clutch tube. There are two different clutch types, push and pull. You can use either one.
You'd also need a cable shift setup and to figure out the CVs and axles, and the conversion stuff to change a 4wd trans to 2wd. There is a lot to it, but the 5MT trans is quite a bit better. |
flmont |
Sep 22 2018, 09:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I could go either way as long as I dont have to make any
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76-914 |
Sep 22 2018, 09:24 AM
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Repeat Offender & Resident Subaru Antagonist Group: Members Posts: 13,485 Joined: 23-January 09 From: Temecula, CA Member No.: 9,964 Region Association: Southern California |
Easy Frank. For the adapter plate get a piece of 1/4" or 3/16" plate and drill a few holes in it. Remove the pedal assm and change out the 2- 8mm bolts on it to longer ones. Reinstall the pedal assm, bolts on the adp plate you made. Bolt on new reservoir and master cylinder, fish AN-3 Aeroquip hose thru old clutch tube (broken or not) then put the ends onto the AN-3 hose, attach and bleed system. As Chris mentioned, the trans bolts directly to the engine, of course, and you'll need to provide the clutch. All of these parts, dimensions, install instructions and part numbers are given in mine and Chris' thread. Jim Kelly has most of the Suby build threads in his signature. Hydraulic will make you Frolic!
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flmont |
Sep 22 2018, 10:01 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Can you keep the 4 bolt hub,.and still have 911 axle's..
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mepstein |
Sep 22 2018, 10:16 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,223 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Can you keep the 4 bolt hub,.and still have 911 axle's.. I don’t think so, at least not without some machine shop work. You want 911 cv’s for that engine so that takes a 911 stub axle that probably only fits into a 911 hub. If you have everything apart you can check but I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other |
flmont |
Sep 22 2018, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Thanks..I kinda thought so..
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flmont |
Sep 23 2018, 08:03 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
How about 911 hubs drilled to the 4 lug pattern, now that's a 1st I bet
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mepstein |
Sep 23 2018, 09:01 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,223 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
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flmont |
Sep 24 2018, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 879 Joined: 21-October 08 From: Tucson,Az Member No.: 9,676 Region Association: Southwest Region |
I would consider using that adapter from 4 to 5 and see if it could be reversed and only because I like the looks of the 4 lug fuch's,
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914forme |
Sep 25 2018, 06:23 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Can you keep the 4 bolt hub,.and still have 911 axle's.. No different spline count on the stub axles to hubs. Here is the issue with the car trans bracket. Unless your running a prebuilt hanger, the backs have to be made to fit the location of the engine and transmission setup. the cradles just are not good for this engine. Axle swaps are well documented, either using Subaru stuff on the inner, or full Porsche. Both solutions have their advantages and disadvantages. The EG is just a big hunk of engine, with that you you get a great engine that is very robust and will take some serious abuse. But it is also physically larger than the -4 or newer -6s. That alone makes the engine placement much more critical to the build. Here is a thought you can get Scott to build your car. He has a wait list of cars. I know there is a huge feeling of accomplishment building the car. I get it, but the frustration can be eliminated by writing a check and waiting. |
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