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> did I overheat tires?, rubber migration on A7
mskala
post Oct 13 2016, 06:42 PM
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This is what both my rears looked like after last weekend auto-x. It wasn't
even hot outside. Is this an indicator of anything particular I'm doing wrong?

About the only abnormal thing on the course was a long 180 that was not
quite a hairpin but I had the gas pedal to the floor for the whole last half of
it. Basically with a 2.3 and limited slip and my setup, no possible way to spin
with foot on the floor.

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post Oct 28 2016, 01:04 PM
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I appreciate all the suggestions.

I'm not doing anything but the local PCA autocrosses, and I don't need to go chucking
my tires after 30 runs after the 'best' grip is used. On the A6 I was using those for
about 10 or 11 events.

Some of the time we do 5 to 7 runs per session (half day) rather than 4. Back in
the day when I was using the Kumho, it took 3 runs before they were up to best
temp for grip, so I had only 1 shot at having a good run before having to wait 3 hours
again. On the A6 or A7 it seemed pretty good after 1 run of warming them up.
But unless my alignment is suddenly off or something, the A7 grip is worse after 4th
run.

Since I'm only in it for fun, and I mostly have to compete against myself, I'd be much
happier with a slower tire that doesn't fall off, than a faster tire that might be designed
for 3 runs before needing cooling.

At least with my streetable suspension settings, I never let the car wag too much
(and our courses are designed fast, usually over 60mph in a couple spots), it's not
easy to avoid spins. And I dislike the water sprayer thing. On tires that heat-
cycle out before the tread is gone, why do I want 8 mini-heat-cycles per day instead of 2?

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mskala   did I overheat tires?   Oct 13 2016, 06:42 PM
wndsrfr   Nothin' wrong with that tire.....they will she...   Oct 13 2016, 07:25 PM
Racer Chris   That's normal for a soft tire that was working...   Oct 14 2016, 06:35 AM
Randal   That's normal for a soft tire that was workin...   Oct 27 2016, 01:02 PM
mskala   yeah, thanks guys but I don't have a tool that...   Oct 14 2016, 09:20 AM
Cracker   I'm leaving for the track in two hours - you a...   Oct 14 2016, 09:44 AM
sixaddict   That's exactly what you spent all that money f...   Oct 14 2016, 11:43 AM
Eddie914   Overheating is apparent when the rubber starts tur...   Oct 15 2016, 06:05 PM
6freak   Overheating is apparent when the rubber starts tu...   Oct 26 2016, 02:34 PM
mskala   I can't deal with tires that get worse after t...   Oct 26 2016, 08:19 PM
ottox914   Could be rubber "worms" migrating off yo...   Oct 26 2016, 10:59 AM
mskala   Yeah, I actually found that the 'adhesive remo...   Oct 26 2016, 12:39 PM
Racer Chris   By the 5th and 6th runs the car felt really slo...   Oct 27 2016, 01:20 PM
6freak   By the 5th and 6th runs the car felt really sl...   Oct 27 2016, 03:20 PM
mskala   I check pressure after every run and reduce back t...   Oct 27 2016, 04:20 PM
6freak   I check pressure after every run and reduce back ...   Oct 27 2016, 09:06 PM
ottox914   Do you have a pyrometer to check temps of the rubb...   Oct 27 2016, 10:52 AM
mskala   I never use the water sprayer, but tried a friend...   Oct 27 2016, 03:02 PM
J P Stein   My "rule of thumb" was 40-50 AX passes a...   Oct 28 2016, 10:11 AM
mskala   One of these with the 'adhesive remover' t...   Oct 28 2016, 12:52 PM
mskala   I appreciate all the suggestions. I'm not doi...   Oct 28 2016, 01:04 PM


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