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> billet intermediate plates, experiences? and specifically bearing question
brant
post Oct 17 2016, 12:02 PM
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So I pulled the stack out of the race car this weekend for intermediate plate bearing inspection. Of the 4-5 tranny's I've lost racing over the last years... its always been the intermediate plate bearings that have failed.

I realize this may be due to a combination of factors
-old bearings
-flex in the intermediate plates, causing the bearing failures


So this weekend, I had good news... no impending bearing failure that I could visually detect

still I think its time to upgrade to a billet intermediate plate before too long.


1) I'd love to know which brands of billet intermediate plates people are using?

2) I'd really love to know, if anyone makes a billet plate that takes an aftermarket (much more affordable) bearing. I see PMS has the factory Porsche bearings at $400+, but wouldn't it make sense to produce a billet intermediate plate that took a more cost effective non Porsche bearing? maybe its out there, I haven't researched much yet.... thought I'd start here with the brain trust.

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post Oct 31 2016, 10:26 AM
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We used one from California Motorsports. It will be for sale this winter with a bunch of our 901 stuff. We killed 4th gear for the last time.....

We have the intermediate plate, side plate, bearing retainer, Tangerine shifter, and a Rennshifter.
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post Nov 1 2016, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Oct 31 2016, 10:26 AM) *

We used one from California Motorsports. It will be for sale this winter with a bunch of our 901 stuff. We killed 4th gear for the last time.....

We have the intermediate plate, side plate, bearing retainer, Tangerine shifter, and a Rennshifter.



Matt,

in all of the transmissions you have been through...
do all of the intermediate plates run a Porsche stock bearing ?
does the California Motorsports?

I keep having the bearing fail in the intermediate plate
wondered if any of the billet plates had gone to an aftermarket bearing that might be:

1)higher quality
2)not $400/more affordable (its still only a bearing)
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QUOTE(brant @ Nov 1 2016, 07:17 AM) *

Matt,

in all of the transmissions you have been through...
do all of the intermediate plates run a Porsche stock bearing ?
does the California Motorsports?

I keep having the bearing fail in the intermediate plate
wondered if any of the billet plates had gone to an aftermarket bearing that might be:

1)higher quality
2)not $400/more affordable (its still only a bearing)


They have all taken stock bearings. I haven't had the bearings fail. It's usually part of the ring and pinion that starts going. If we miss the start and it chunks, it will hurt the bearings. Interesting that you have had bearing failures.

I would suggest you have the bearings, races, gears, ring, pinion, and anything else you can send cryo treated and REM polished. I would also suggest Amsoil gear lube. I think it was as good as the really expensive stuff.
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QUOTE(Matt Romanowski @ Nov 7 2016, 10:26 PM) *

QUOTE(brant @ Nov 1 2016, 07:17 AM) *

Matt,

in all of the transmissions you have been through...
do all of the intermediate plates run a Porsche stock bearing ?
does the California Motorsports?

I keep having the bearing fail in the intermediate plate
wondered if any of the billet plates had gone to an aftermarket bearing that might be:

1)higher quality
2)not $400/more affordable (its still only a bearing)


They have all taken stock bearings. I haven't had the bearings fail. It's usually part of the ring and pinion that starts going. If we miss the start and it chunks, it will hurt the bearings. Interesting that you have had bearing failures.

I would suggest you have the bearings, races, gears, ring, pinion, and anything else you can send cryo treated and REM polished. I would also suggest Amsoil gear lube. I think it was as good as the really expensive stuff.


I like the cryogenic idea.
I don't have the torque to tear out the ring/pinion. But my rpm still creates a lot of heat and the bearings seem to be the first thing for me
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brant   billet intermediate plates   Oct 17 2016, 12:02 PM
Cracker   Brant, I can't offer much help here but I had...   Oct 20 2016, 06:19 AM
brant   Good info. I will look for their website today I ...   Oct 20 2016, 07:02 AM
campbellcj   Brant, I know this is limited value but I'm p...   Oct 20 2016, 12:05 PM
stownsen914   I was planning to switch to an aluminum intermedia...   Oct 22 2016, 08:39 AM
Matt Romanowski   We used one from California Motorsports. It will b...   Oct 31 2016, 10:26 AM
campbellcj   We used one from California Motorsports. It will ...   Oct 31 2016, 06:22 PM
Matt Romanowski   We used one from California Motorsports. It will...   Nov 7 2016, 10:27 PM
brant   We used one from California Motorsports. It will ...   Nov 1 2016, 09:17 AM
Matt Romanowski   Matt, in all of the transmissions you have been...   Nov 7 2016, 10:26 PM
brant   Matt, in all of the transmissions you have bee...   Nov 7 2016, 11:39 PM
jd74914   [quote name='Matt Romanowski' post='2420813' date...   Nov 8 2016, 10:35 AM
ThePaintedMan   You're running a cooler though, correct Brant?   Nov 8 2016, 06:52 AM
brant   You're running a cooler though, correct Brant...   Nov 8 2016, 08:36 AM
J P Stein   I dunno........ I had the same trans (stocker) in ...   Nov 8 2016, 08:57 AM
naro914   We had a CMS intermediate plate in the 901 we had ...   Nov 29 2016, 07:52 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   Found these pieces in the bottom of my transmissio...   Dec 6 2016, 07:05 PM
brant   Is that the roll pin on the shifter console? Ther...   Dec 6 2016, 09:11 PM
Jetsetsurfshop   The roll pin came from the top set of gears on the...   Dec 7 2016, 06:15 AM


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