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> Surging and Unsettled Idel after MPS Rebuild, '74 2.0L D-Jet
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post Oct 17 2016, 07:36 PM
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Running down a bucking issue and found my MPS to be leaking. After rebuilding the MPS and verifying a good seal, everything went back together okay. When I started the car, the engine surged up and down and would not idle.

The electrical connector socket on the MPS does not appear to be keyed and using the diagram below from Clay's D-Jet troubleshooting guide it seems I may have plugged in the MPS wire incorrectly. I ohmed the wires from the ECU connector to the MPS socket and made sure the wires are in the order shown in the diagram.

The wires look to be looping back from terminal 7 to 15 and 8 to 10 so that the socket could be plugged in either way and work correctly. Could plugging in the MPS wires incorrectly have damaged the ECU? If not, what should I be looking for that would cause the surging and lack of idle?

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post Oct 17 2016, 10:26 PM
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The MPS may be calibrated too lean for your engine. It may be possible to compensate for that by bumping the fuel pressure slightly. Use a fuel pressure gauge and increase 1-3psi to see it idle and driveability improves.
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post Oct 17 2016, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ Oct 17 2016, 09:26 PM) *

The MPS may be calibrated too lean for your engine. It may be possible to compensate for that by bumping the fuel pressure slightly. Use a fuel pressure gauge and increase 1-3psi to see it idle and driveability improves.


I agree with Jeff but suggest that you test this before making any changes. Either borrow or obtain a CO meter that can be used while driving on a flat road at part-load, and check your CO level. If you're seeing 2% CO or less you're too lean. I believe mine is set to 2.5%, Jeff can give you better numbers.

Jeff brings up a good point which is that the order in which mixture settings are done on the 2.0L and 1.7L D-Jet engines is critical. The first setting should be the part-load setting (center screw on the MPS), followed by the full-load setting (full-load stop), then the transition setting (outer screw). Once all of these are set, then the idle mixture is set using the ECU knob. All of these settings need to be done with everything else fully checked-out (fully-charged battery, good alternator/regulator, fuel supply, fuel pressure, ignition timing & dwell, proper plug gap, valve clearance, no vacuum leaks, etc, etc), and with a fully warmed-up engine.

914's were originally build with stock Bosch MPS calibrations locked into the sealed unit. The only mixture adjustment that could have been done at the factory was the idle mixture, and I doubt that was done, as the ECU's have a mark for the factory setting, and I suspect that's where it was left at. Only thing I believe was actually done on any of the motors is setting the idle bleed screw. If you want to do optimal tuning of the MPS for your engine, by following the procedures on my page, you can match the MPS more precisely to your needs, but it requires access to emissions measurement systems and a good understanding of MPS adjustments.
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914four   Surging and Unsettled Idel after MPS Rebuild   Oct 17 2016, 07:36 PM
Rand   It's lean. Which means vacuum leak somewhere a...   Oct 17 2016, 07:39 PM
pbanders   You can't plug the MPS in incorrectly, you did...   Oct 17 2016, 07:47 PM
914four   You can't plug the MPS in incorrectly, you di...   Oct 17 2016, 08:13 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   The MPS may be calibrated too lean for your engine...   Oct 17 2016, 10:26 PM
pbanders   The MPS may be calibrated too lean for your engin...   Oct 17 2016, 11:19 PM
Philip W.   I agree with all the above, you are running lean-...   Oct 18 2016, 06:33 AM
pbanders   Jeff Bowlsby can check your MPS and set it to th...   Oct 18 2016, 08:11 AM
Bleyseng   You are running too lean and need to use a AF mete...   Oct 18 2016, 08:07 AM
914four   Thank you all for the responses. I was able to ch...   Oct 18 2016, 11:16 AM
Racer Chris   Kelvin, You have the adjustment tools. It may take...   Oct 18 2016, 11:32 AM
914four   Kelvin, You have the adjustment tools. It may tak...   Oct 19 2016, 09:17 PM
pbanders   Thank you for the direction on the MPS. I was ab...   Oct 20 2016, 09:28 AM
zambezi   What would you recommend for a good tester to test...   Oct 20 2016, 10:39 AM
pbanders   What would you recommend for a good tester to tes...   Oct 20 2016, 02:16 PM
914four   Success! I disassembled the MPS and added t...   Oct 20 2016, 08:36 PM
914four   So far I my car has been running smother than ever...   Nov 3 2016, 06:24 PM
pbanders   So far I my car has been running smother than eve...   Nov 3 2016, 11:19 PM
914_teener   Check your fuel pressure and TPS conditions first.   Nov 3 2016, 07:08 PM
lsintampa   I chased a surge for over a year on my 2L (1975). ...   Nov 21 2016, 07:55 AM
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Rand   I know this is an old thread, but for anyone who ...   Apr 2 2017, 05:11 PM
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