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Dads new car |
GeorgeRud |
Oct 21 2016, 07:51 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Since the front bumper is already off, you're mostly there. Access the locking mechanism in the middle of the front panel to pop the front trunk. There may be a rubber plug you have to remove - I don't remember offhand.
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914fahrer |
Oct 21 2016, 12:02 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 103 Joined: 12-November 14 From: Berlin/Germany Member No.: 18,115 Region Association: Germany |
You only need a srewdriver.
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mb911 |
Oct 21 2016, 01:16 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Perfect.. Thanks.. Its hard to explain all this to my dad semi long distance and him not really interested in the internet...
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mepstein |
Oct 21 2016, 01:50 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
If he pokes around enough, he'll get it.
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mb911 |
Oct 21 2016, 04:15 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
He got it open.. It had an extra mahle wheel in the trunk so he has 5 total.. Kind of cool.
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mb911 |
Aug 30 2017, 02:02 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So just a quick update.. Dad has confirmed it is a 2.0 and has wire brushed the floors top to bottom and then primed them with red oxide. He has cleaned all grounds and put plugs in it after soaking the cylinders with fogging oil .. Fuel tank is in and clean though he is missing the retaining strap and one of the rubber chunk that centers the tank. New fuel filter etc..
Bad news engine seems locked up.. Any tips for a better solution to free the rings?? He is pulling starter to see if he can spin the flywheel.. I am thinking engine has to come out.. Any thoughts as dad is pretty stubborn but any tips I can give will help. |
mepstein |
Aug 30 2017, 03:05 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,234 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
So just a quick update.. Dad has confirmed it is a 2.0 and has wire brushed the floors top to bottom and then primed them with red oxide. He has cleaned all grounds and put plugs in it after soaking the cylinders with fogging oil .. Fuel tank is in and clean though he is missing the retaining strap and one of the rubber chunk that centers the tank. New fuel filter etc.. Bad news engine seems locked up.. Any tips for a better solution to free the rings?? He is pulling starter to see if he can spin the flywheel.. I am thinking engine has to come out.. Any thoughts as dad is pretty stubborn but any tips I can give will help. Ben - I have the tank rubber and straps whenever you want them. Make up a list and I'll send it over. |
mb911 |
Aug 30 2017, 03:18 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So just a quick update.. Dad has confirmed it is a 2.0 and has wire brushed the floors top to bottom and then primed them with red oxide. He has cleaned all grounds and put plugs in it after soaking the cylinders with fogging oil .. Fuel tank is in and clean though he is missing the retaining strap and one of the rubber chunk that centers the tank. New fuel filter etc.. Bad news engine seems locked up.. Any tips for a better solution to free the rings?? He is pulling starter to see if he can spin the flywheel.. I am thinking engine has to come out.. Any thoughts as dad is pretty stubborn but any tips I can give will help. Ben - I have the tank rubber and straps whenever you want them. Make up a list and I'll send it over. Sounds good. He also needs a 2.0 muffler not picky just anything.. |
Spoke |
Aug 30 2017, 03:33 PM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,972 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Bad news engine seems locked up.. Any tips for a better solution to free the rings?? If the goal is to get the engine running as is, I would suggest dropping the engine and working on it in the garage. Excellent access to everything including adjusting valves. If you are going to keep the engine in the car, remove the engine hood for better access if you haven't already done so. I had the same frozen engine when I bought one that had been sitting outside and took in a lot of water. Using the alternator pulley bolt, I jogged the engine back and forth. At first the engine wouldn't turn, then slowly it turned a bit more until I could get it to turn completely. Ended up draining the oil + 1/2 gallon of water, cleaning and painting the tins, installed the original FI, and got it running in the garage. I put the engine in the car and ran it for 3 years without a hitch. |
mb911 |
Aug 30 2017, 05:13 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I think he needs to fill the cylinders with something that will break the rings free..not sure what would be best for that. I personally would be pulling the engine apart.
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914Sixer |
Aug 31 2017, 07:10 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,868 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Try some Marvel Mystery Oil in the cylinders.
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IronHillRestorations |
Aug 31 2017, 07:20 AM
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I. I. R. C. Group: Members Posts: 6,714 Joined: 18-March 03 From: West TN Member No.: 439 Region Association: None |
I'd pull the engine and put it on a stand, turn one bank up and fill with MMM, let soak for several days, repeat the process for the other side.
Whilst out, I'd replace every seal including the push rod tube seals, and replace or re-epoxy the oil galley plugs. |
Elliot Cannon |
Aug 31 2017, 07:38 AM
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914 Guru Group: Retired Members Posts: 8,487 Joined: 29-December 06 From: Paso Robles Ca. (Central coast) Member No.: 7,407 Region Association: None |
I think I counted three Pintos in that parking lot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Good luck on the new project.
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mb911 |
Aug 31 2017, 11:01 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Well dad called and he took the starter out and turns over no problem so strange I couldn't turn it by hand up front..
So checking starter out and he will go from there.. We also did not hear the fuel pump kick on when we turned the key on so not sure as not familiar with the 4cyl cars as to weather it only turns on with the starter engagement? |
mb911 |
Sep 10 2017, 02:07 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So update .. Dad repaired the starter and reinstalled. Engine actually only turns over about 180 degrees so must have something in a couple of cylinders or part hydolocked? Not sure told him to turn it over with no plugs in it.
Oil in cylinders now soaking.. Also he has discovered no power from key to starter so he is jumping starter to ensure the engine turns over.. I have never owned a 914 that I used the relay board .. Does anyone know what the 1st spot to check would be? I have to explain over the phone to him and I am not familiar enough with 4cyl cars and haven't done any wiring on a 914 in 16 years. |
Freezin 914 |
Sep 10 2017, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 841 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Maybe I can help you with some parts, if you need some. I have a bunch of stuff and I am close enough. Nice car! Look forward to seeing it come together. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif)
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mb911 |
Sep 10 2017, 04:40 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
That would be cool. He is missing allot.. He has no bumpers,seats, door cards, etc..
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Freezin 914 |
Sep 11 2017, 06:31 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 841 Joined: 27-July 14 From: Wisconsin Member No.: 17,687 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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mb911 |
Sep 11 2017, 12:59 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Pm sent.
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mb911 |
Jun 9 2018, 07:34 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 6,806 Joined: 2-January 09 From: Burlington wi Member No.: 9,892 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
So dad's 70th is this week and he slowly has worked on the car, changed out relay board(thanks Mark), replaced ignition switch, got the engine to break free after sitting for years, now the engine turns over by the key switch but probably needs a starter, fuel pump works, he has figured most of the wiring out .. I found a muffler here from a very giving member here.. Thanks Kevin.
He is looking at buying a new known starter but again he moves slow on these things. I would guess he is a couple hours away from it starting. Still needs a ton of parts.. I gave him my backpad and some extra seals etc but he still needs a bunch of parts .. Seats are a priority.. |
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