How to install factory front stablizer bar mounts, Quick and easy method I use |
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How to install factory front stablizer bar mounts, Quick and easy method I use |
914Sixer |
Oct 22 2016, 08:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,841 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Clean the indention area off first. Take the mounting plate and turn it upside down. Place it in the ridge with any side up. You can FEEL it slot into the arch. Draw your center hole. Center punch hard. Take the smaller step bit (Harbor Freight) and step it through all the sizes. Next chuck up the larger bit and take it step by step until the center hole of the plate fits. Next draw the bottom hole only. Use the smaller step bit about half way or you will drill into the inside brace. Chuck the larger bit up and step the hole to about 19mm (3/4"). Fit plate again and mark two upper hole. Using the smaller bit again step it to 3/4" ONE hole at a time. Check the plate fit. You may have to open the holes ONE size larger on the step bit. Last picture is of the tank side.. Clean up holes and get ready to to welding preparation. Hope this will help you in your job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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bigkensteele |
Oct 22 2016, 08:42 PM
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Major Member Group: Members Posts: 2,197 Joined: 30-August 04 From: Cincinnati, OH Member No.: 2,660 Region Association: South East States |
Interesting. Did you get these mounts at the dealer? I bought a set of aftermarket years ago that go on the other side. I was planning on installing them soon. This approach looks much less intrusive (and easier)! Thanks for posting this.
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914Sixer |
Oct 22 2016, 08:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,841 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Yep, they are available from dealer for less than $30 each depending on where you shop.
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914_teener |
Oct 22 2016, 09:42 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
I did that very similarly except instead of buying the larger step drill I mounted the plate and tack welded it in...then drilled the bushing hole out with the same step drill and got a cartridge roll on a angle air die grinder to grind it out the rest of the way to the nut plate.
Front sway bar is a nice improvement. Nice work. I ended up "rust painting" in that area...."while I was there". |
echocanyons |
Oct 22 2016, 10:01 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California |
As I recently found out, It is also important to be cautious and take care near the harness while welding this in.
Your picture shows nicely the proximity of this to the bar mount. Do you have any tips of how you do this? |
tygaboy |
Oct 23 2016, 07:33 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,244 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Part # 914 501 162 10
Reinforcement for stabilser mounting (sic) |
914_teener |
Oct 23 2016, 11:22 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
As I recently found out, It is also important to be cautious and take care near the harness while welding this in. Your picture shows nicely the proximity of this to the bar mount. Do you have any tips of how you do this? Just undo the metal tab and there should be enough slack to carefully pull the harness up enough to tack weld the nut plate in place. The real trick is when you MIG weld the nut plate in is to try and keep as much heat on the nut plate to not burn through the fender weld metal too much as it is thin. I did.... and just took a small air disk sander and repainted and re-undercoated the fender well. I recommend if you add the sway bar do the TT rod upgrade (turbo tie rod) at the same time and any other work you can while you have the gas tank out. |
BeemerSteve |
Oct 23 2016, 11:29 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 2-September 15 From: Van Zandt, Wa Member No.: 19,123 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I've been scratching my head thinking about how to do this on my 73 Signal Orange car lately and you posted this "how to ". Thanks very much for sharing this!
I love this forum!! |
toolguy |
Oct 23 2016, 12:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,267 Joined: 2-April 11 From: San Diego / El Cajon Member No.: 12,889 Region Association: Southern California |
IIRC, the factory reinforcing plate was welded on the INSIDE of the fender wheel well. . The outside plate with the bushing and the inner nut plate sandwiched the body between. .
The factory only tack welded the inner plate, not all the way around. I've ripped out numerous factory setups with hard track use. . stress cracks at the bolt holes. Probably should be more substantially welded. |
914_teener |
Oct 23 2016, 02:04 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,193 Joined: 31-August 08 From: So. Cal Member No.: 9,489 Region Association: Southern California |
IIRC, the factory reinforcing plate was welded on the INSIDE of the fender wheel well. . The outside plate with the bushing and the inner nut plate sandwiched the body between. . The factory only tack welded the inner plate, not all the way around. I've ripped out numerous factory setups with hard track use. . stress cracks at the bolt holes. Probably should be more substantially welded. I think he did...the OP...I think he is just showing how you can transfer the bolt and hole pattern from the outside of the fender well and then weld it to the inside of the fender well. Of course you need to notch the hat section inside the fender well to get it to position correctly from the fuel tank. Think the nut plate from either rebel or Pelican have the templates and instructions. There are a couple of threads here that show that. |
914Sixer |
Oct 23 2016, 02:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,841 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Somebody please post a picture of the factory one. There is NO inside cutting. Plate goes on the outside as I posted. It was spot welded in about 6 places.
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914werke |
Oct 23 2016, 03:22 PM
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"I got blisters on me fingers" Group: Members Posts: 9,889 Joined: 22-March 03 From: USofA Member No.: 453 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
IIRC, the factory reinforcing plate was welded on the INSIDE of the fender wheel well. . The outside plate with the bushing and the inner nut plate sandwiched the body between. . The factory only tack welded the inner plate, not all the way around. I've ripped out numerous factory setups with hard track use. . stress cracks at the bolt holes. Probably should be more substantially welded. I disagree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) No other "plate" or reinforcing material was ever used on the installation of the OE front anti-sway bar than the component depicted previously, in the manner described (except that it also had 3 stich welds in addition to the many spot welds, on each side of that plate) Ive personally stripped MANY original cars so equipped. None had any other inside support. BTW, this installation CAN be preformed w/o removal of the tank, just take appropriate precautions when welding. EDIT:If the suggestion that part 901.333.753.01 (support) was installed by the factory on 914's I'd say BS as Ive never seen one, but it looks like a reasonable update for factory equipped cars. |
Wyvern |
Sep 3 2017, 12:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 324 Joined: 7-October 15 From: San Francisco (East Bay) Member No.: 19,245 Region Association: Northern California |
Great info here . Thanks for posting.
I will be doing my install using this method. Question ... if reinforcement plates were also installed . (The kind that go in the wheel well) I would assume the reinforce plate would be mounted first ? |
Mikey914 |
Sep 3 2017, 02:57 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,622 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
IIRC, the factory reinforcing plate was welded on the INSIDE of the fender wheel well. . The outside plate with the bushing and the inner nut plate sandwiched the body between. . The factory only tack welded the inner plate, not all the way around. I've ripped out numerous factory setups with hard track use. . stress cracks at the bolt holes. Probably should be more substantially welded. I disagree. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) No other "plate" or reinforcing material was ever used on the installation of the OE front anti-sway bar than the component depicted previously, in the manner described (except that it also had 3 stich welds in addition to the many spot welds, on each side of that plate) Ive personally stripped MANY original cars so equipped. None had any other inside support. BTW, this installation CAN be preformed w/o removal of the tank, just take appropriate precautions when welding. EDIT:If the suggestion that part 901.333.753.01 (support) was installed by the factory on 914's I'd say BS as Ive never seen one, but it looks like a reasonable update for factory equipped cars. Good to know Rich. I had always been told you "must" add the reinforcement. But good to hear from someone with experience on these. |
ConeDodger |
Sep 3 2017, 03:07 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,543 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
BTW, for those of you without sway bars, this is one of the most dramatic improvements I made to my car back when I got it. Driving it into corners was Night-and-day different. Well worth the effort...
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PlaysWithCars |
Sep 4 2017, 08:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 521 Joined: 9-November 03 From: Southeast of Seattle Member No.: 1,323 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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A must do enhancement to really experience the legendary 'go kart' like handling of the 914. |
mepstein |
Sep 4 2017, 09:57 AM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,142 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
This is on my '74 parts car. All factory as far as I know. Nothing on the inside but definitely a plate in the outside.
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maf914 |
Sep 4 2017, 10:13 AM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
Somebody please post a picture of the factory one. There is NO inside cutting. Plate goes on the outside as I posted. It was spot welded in about 6 places. I agree. I hope someone with a car with factory installed sway bars will post a couple of photos of the installation. I wouldn't mind seeing the factory rear bar installation as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Well, there you go. Mepstein posted photos while I was typing. Thanks, Mepstein. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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