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> Help us rebuild a 1.7, We have no idea what we're doing, but its fun!
ericoneal
post Oct 26 2016, 02:53 PM
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I picked up this engine from a member of the "World" in Nashville and my son and I are going to attempt to rebuild it over the winter. We have a book, youtube, and this website and will document everything in this thread.
The first thing we had to do is get it small and light enough to get it down to the unfinished portion of my basement, so I put the boy (he's 4) to work pulling the heads off.
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Looks ok so far... Very hard to keep Blake from "organizing" all the nuts and bolts into a mixed pile.
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Success:
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More picture and questions to come. I have the cylinders and heads off and its ready to move, but still very heavy.

Much thanks to walterolin for loaning us an engine stand, he even hand delivered it on a Sunday morning. Thanks again Walter!

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post Oct 26 2016, 03:04 PM
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What a fun project!
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post Oct 26 2016, 03:24 PM
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If you can find a later version (still 20+ years old..) of John Muir's 'How to keep your Volkswagen Alive' book, I would start there. Pretty sure it includes the Type IV engines. Not many pictures, but he does a great (and humorous) job of explaining exactly what to do.

I'm sure others here can recommend a technical manual that can help fill in the pictures.
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post Oct 26 2016, 03:49 PM
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I have a first edition of Johns book. He's a very detailed and humorous guy for sure. A wealth of common sense knowledge in that book.
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post Oct 26 2016, 04:16 PM
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I recommend Jake Raby's Rebuild VW Porsche Type 4 IV Engine DVD. He does a complete tear down, inspection and rebuild. He also points out the parts to hang on to that are hard to come by. It's a great step by step guide.
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post Oct 26 2016, 04:59 PM
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The engine stand makes life easier.

You have lots to think about. Is there anything wrong with the engine that the PO told you or you can see?

you just gonna re-bush, re-bearing, re-ring, etc.... the 1.7?

Fuel injection, or Carbs.... gotta get the right cam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Or maybe spice it up with bigger pistons and make it a 1911 cc. all that is is upping the piston diameter. and it goes up in stuff and price from there. 2.0, 2056, etc... depends on what you plan to do with the car.

all the books will help and Jakes video is pretty old, but it is good. YouTube is great too.

Let me know if I can help, I am also in Nashville. You are a good ways from here, but I'll do what I can.

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post Oct 26 2016, 06:17 PM
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Hey I am not far away if you get stuck.
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post Oct 26 2016, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(ericoneal @ Oct 26 2016, 01:53 PM) *


Simply awesome! Save this picture to remind Blake of your role instilling in him the need to take things apart and fix them. What a great memory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)
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post Oct 26 2016, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(CAMshaft @ Oct 26 2016, 04:16 PM) *

I recommend Jake Raby's Rebuild VW Porsche Type 4 IV Engine DVD. He does a complete tear down, inspection and rebuild. He also points out the parts to hang on to that are hard to come by. It's a great step by step guide.


I second the video from Jake Raby.
He says that some of his recommendations have changed since he made the video but it is still the 'bible' for a type-IV first timer.
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:02 AM
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I third Jake's video. You can go with the adhesives in the video. Or buy the new kit from the Type 4 Store.
I started my love for working on cars with John's book. Have no idea where it went. I think I'll search the web for one.
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post Oct 27 2016, 07:43 AM
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I have Jake's video but mostly use Tom Wilson's book. "How to rebuild your vw engine". Ions ago there was no internet, so Tom's book got me through my first rebuilds. I still use it for reference.
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post Oct 27 2016, 08:26 AM
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Cool to see this Eric! Fun to have your boy "helping" too. IIRC it had low compression in #3, so I'll be following your progress.
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post Oct 27 2016, 08:35 AM
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My 1.7 needs at the very least a top end rebuild. Might try to follow along with you...
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post Oct 27 2016, 09:47 AM
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Thanks everyone. I have read the VW idiot book, have thumbed through the Wilson book, and will start looking for the dvd. This page looks useful as well: Rebuilding a Porsche 914 (VW Type 4) Engine

I pulled my current 2.0 out last summer and had it rebuilt by someone else, then put it back in, so I'm not completely foriegn to all of this. That was a horrible, epic, experience that led me down this path of wanting to have the knowledge to rebuild on my own.

Will send along pictures as I make progress, all advice is welcome. Next up is to buy a work bench this weekend, get it on the stand, and maybe the case open.

Eric


PS Perry, I thought that I had remembered you mentioning that, will keep that in mind and send pictures when I get to that. The transmission you gave me is getting cracked open next. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


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post Oct 27 2016, 11:08 AM
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http://www.bugmevideo.com/volume8.html

You mentioned Transmission>>>

DR EVIL has a DVD too. He is in Ohio now.

https://themostlyporscheblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/261/

I had him rebuild my tranz. I felt like the tranz was something I did not want to tackle alone. He worked hard to get it right. I have about 25K miles on it now.

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post Oct 27 2016, 01:19 PM
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Great project. Below books help me a lot.
the John Muir is gold for me for many years in my VW hobby and now again great use for the 914 work.
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post Oct 27 2016, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE(fixer34 @ Oct 26 2016, 02:24 PM) *

If you can find a later version (still 20+ years old..) of John Muir's 'How to keep your Volkswagen Alive' book, I would start there. Pretty sure it includes the Type IV engines. Not many pictures, but he does a great (and humorous) job of explaining exactly what to do.

I'm sure others here can recommend a technical manual that can help fill in the pictures.



Good choice! It covers the Type IV engine and it even has a section on the fuel injection!
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post Oct 27 2016, 03:27 PM
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QUOTE(Frankvw @ Oct 27 2016, 02:19 PM) *

Great project. Below books help me a lot.
the John Muir is gold for me for many years in my VW hobby and now again great use for the 914 work.
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25th anniversary edition..
I just looked, mine is dated Feb 1974
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post Nov 5 2016, 07:34 AM
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Eric I think I have a extra Bug Me DVD i can give you . The late Bob Hoover's Blog has a great deal of practical air cooled motor information.

http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/search?q=cylinder+height+

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post Nov 5 2016, 11:21 AM
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This is also a must read for anyone building a type IV:

http://www.ephotomotion.com/914engine/
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