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Help us rebuild a 1.7, We have no idea what we're doing, but its fun! |
ericoneal |
Oct 26 2016, 02:53 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 13-August 12 From: Crestwood, KY Member No.: 14,795 Region Association: South East States |
I picked up this engine from a member of the "World" in Nashville and my son and I are going to attempt to rebuild it over the winter. We have a book, youtube, and this website and will document everything in this thread.
The first thing we had to do is get it small and light enough to get it down to the unfinished portion of my basement, so I put the boy (he's 4) to work pulling the heads off. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c5.staticflickr.com-14795-1477515217.1.jpg) Looks ok so far... Very hard to keep Blake from "organizing" all the nuts and bolts into a mixed pile. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c5.staticflickr.com-14795-1477515217.2.jpg) Success: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c3.staticflickr.com-14795-1477515218.3.jpg) More picture and questions to come. I have the cylinders and heads off and its ready to move, but still very heavy. Much thanks to walterolin for loaning us an engine stand, he even hand delivered it on a Sunday morning. Thanks again Walter! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/c1.staticflickr.com-14795-1477515219.4.jpg) |
iwanta914-6 |
Oct 26 2016, 03:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 718 Joined: 26-June 09 From: Minnesota Member No.: 10,510 Region Association: None |
What a fun project!
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fixer34 |
Oct 26 2016, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,073 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
If you can find a later version (still 20+ years old..) of John Muir's 'How to keep your Volkswagen Alive' book, I would start there. Pretty sure it includes the Type IV engines. Not many pictures, but he does a great (and humorous) job of explaining exactly what to do.
I'm sure others here can recommend a technical manual that can help fill in the pictures. |
yellow75 |
Oct 26 2016, 03:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 1-October 16 From: pittsburgh Member No.: 20,452 Region Association: None |
I have a first edition of Johns book. He's a very detailed and humorous guy for sure. A wealth of common sense knowledge in that book.
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CAMshaft |
Oct 26 2016, 04:16 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 25 Joined: 26-September 16 From: Charlotte NC Member No.: 20,433 Region Association: South East States |
I recommend Jake Raby's Rebuild VW Porsche Type 4 IV Engine DVD. He does a complete tear down, inspection and rebuild. He also points out the parts to hang on to that are hard to come by. It's a great step by step guide.
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malcolm2 |
Oct 26 2016, 04:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
The engine stand makes life easier.
You have lots to think about. Is there anything wrong with the engine that the PO told you or you can see? you just gonna re-bush, re-bearing, re-ring, etc.... the 1.7? Fuel injection, or Carbs.... gotta get the right cam. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Or maybe spice it up with bigger pistons and make it a 1911 cc. all that is is upping the piston diameter. and it goes up in stuff and price from there. 2.0, 2056, etc... depends on what you plan to do with the car. all the books will help and Jakes video is pretty old, but it is good. YouTube is great too. Let me know if I can help, I am also in Nashville. You are a good ways from here, but I'll do what I can. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
Mblizzard |
Oct 26 2016, 06:17 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,033 Joined: 28-January 13 From: Knoxville Tn Member No.: 15,438 Region Association: South East States |
Hey I am not far away if you get stuck.
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tygaboy |
Oct 26 2016, 06:45 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California |
Simply awesome! Save this picture to remind Blake of your role instilling in him the need to take things apart and fix them. What a great memory! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) |
stugray |
Oct 26 2016, 09:23 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
I recommend Jake Raby's Rebuild VW Porsche Type 4 IV Engine DVD. He does a complete tear down, inspection and rebuild. He also points out the parts to hang on to that are hard to come by. It's a great step by step guide. I second the video from Jake Raby. He says that some of his recommendations have changed since he made the video but it is still the 'bible' for a type-IV first timer. |
cary |
Oct 27 2016, 07:02 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,900 Joined: 26-January 04 From: Sherwood Oregon Member No.: 1,608 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I third Jake's video. You can go with the adhesives in the video. Or buy the new kit from the Type 4 Store.
I started my love for working on cars with John's book. Have no idea where it went. I think I'll search the web for one. |
TheCabinetmaker |
Oct 27 2016, 07:43 AM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,300 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
I have Jake's video but mostly use Tom Wilson's book. "How to rebuild your vw engine". Ions ago there was no internet, so Tom's book got me through my first rebuilds. I still use it for reference.
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Perry Kiehl Clone |
Oct 27 2016, 08:26 AM
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Cool to see this Eric! Fun to have your boy "helping" too. IIRC it had low compression in #3, so I'll be following your progress.
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mbseto |
Oct 27 2016, 08:35 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,253 Joined: 6-August 14 From: Cincy Member No.: 17,743 Region Association: North East States |
My 1.7 needs at the very least a top end rebuild. Might try to follow along with you...
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ericoneal |
Oct 27 2016, 09:47 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 13-August 12 From: Crestwood, KY Member No.: 14,795 Region Association: South East States |
Thanks everyone. I have read the VW idiot book, have thumbed through the Wilson book, and will start looking for the dvd. This page looks useful as well: Rebuilding a Porsche 914 (VW Type 4) Engine
I pulled my current 2.0 out last summer and had it rebuilt by someone else, then put it back in, so I'm not completely foriegn to all of this. That was a horrible, epic, experience that led me down this path of wanting to have the knowledge to rebuild on my own. Will send along pictures as I make progress, all advice is welcome. Next up is to buy a work bench this weekend, get it on the stand, and maybe the case open. Eric PS Perry, I thought that I had remembered you mentioning that, will keep that in mind and send pictures when I get to that. The transmission you gave me is getting cracked open next. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
malcolm2 |
Oct 27 2016, 11:08 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,738 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States |
http://www.bugmevideo.com/volume8.html
You mentioned Transmission>>> DR EVIL has a DVD too. He is in Ohio now. https://themostlyporscheblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/22/261/ I had him rebuild my tranz. I felt like the tranz was something I did not want to tackle alone. He worked hard to get it right. I have about 25K miles on it now. |
Frankvw |
Oct 27 2016, 01:19 PM
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working on my first 914 ! Group: Members Posts: 651 Joined: 13-April 16 From: Holland, the Netherlands Member No.: 19,896 Region Association: Europe |
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Archie |
Oct 27 2016, 02:32 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 196 Joined: 23-September 09 From: Western Canada Member No.: 10,844 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If you can find a later version (still 20+ years old..) of John Muir's 'How to keep your Volkswagen Alive' book, I would start there. Pretty sure it includes the Type IV engines. Not many pictures, but he does a great (and humorous) job of explaining exactly what to do. I'm sure others here can recommend a technical manual that can help fill in the pictures. Good choice! It covers the Type IV engine and it even has a section on the fuel injection! |
fixer34 |
Oct 27 2016, 03:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,073 Joined: 16-September 14 From: Chicago area Member No.: 17,908 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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NCRider |
Nov 5 2016, 07:34 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 18 Joined: 5-June 10 From: Apex NC Member No.: 11,809 Region Association: South East States |
Eric I think I have a extra Bug Me DVD i can give you . The late Bob Hoover's Blog has a great deal of practical air cooled motor information.
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/search?q=cylinder+height+ Jeff |
stugray |
Nov 5 2016, 11:21 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,824 Joined: 17-September 09 From: Longmont, CO Member No.: 10,819 Region Association: None |
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