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| garrettlee2 |
 Oct 27 2016, 07:31 PM
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Hello all, today I bought a very nice 914 that had what looks like a battery fire. I think that because the battery has melted in half and the sail pail shows signs of smoke. I bought it from a donation yard so the owner isn't around to question. So I bring it to y'all, What would cause this and how can I prevent it in the future?
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 27 2016, 08:26 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,556 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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It's a late model. The coil was on the tin. Often the tin will rip and the coil will no longer be firmly held in place. If the coil rotates and contacts the tin it will short to the engine tin. If you keep cranking it trying to start it, the battery cables melt and it will even burn away the sheet metal where the negative cable contacts the sheet metal above the battery. Often a good bit of harness will be melted.
Not too hard to fix. Depending on the extent of the damage. Contact Bowlsby for a replacement harness. As for prevention, securely mount the coil. |
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| bdstone914 |
Oct 27 2016, 09:24 PM
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bdstone914 Group: Members Posts: 4,512 Joined: 8-November 03 From: Riverside CA Member No.: 1,319 |
What are you going to do with that one? Call me when you get it home so we can check it out.
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| EdwardBlume |
Oct 27 2016, 09:54 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California
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QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 27 2016, 07:26 PM)  It's a late model. The coil was on the tin. Often the tin will rip and the coil will no longer be firmly held in place. If the coil rotates and contacts the tin it will short to the engine tin. If you keep cranking it trying to start it, the battery cables melt and it will even burn away the sheet metal where the negative cable contacts the sheet metal above the battery. Often a good bit of harness will be melted. Not too hard to fix. Depending on the extent of the damage. Contact Bowlsby for a replacement harness. As for prevention, securely mount the coil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) Did you pull this nugget from a book or something? |
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| ConeDodger |
Oct 27 2016, 10:03 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,556 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(RobW @ Oct 27 2016, 11:54 PM) QUOTE(ConeDodger @ Oct 27 2016, 07:26 PM) It's a late model. The coil was on the tin. Often the tin will rip and the coil will no longer be firmly held in place. If the coil rotates and contacts the tin it will short to the engine tin. If you keep cranking it trying to start it, the battery cables melt and it will even burn away the sheet metal where the negative cable contacts the sheet metal above the battery. Often a good bit of harness will be melted. Not too hard to fix. Depending on the extent of the damage. Contact Bowlsby for a replacement harness. As for prevention, securely mount the coil. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/type.gif) Did you pull this nugget from a book or something? Believe it or not, I almost did the same thing to mine... in fact, before McMark left for Grand Rapids, he repaired the burned out negative post and replaced it. Been a long time since mine was a Type IV with late tin, but I do remember things. Experience is a bitch of a teacher. This almost went up in flames! Attached image(s) 
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| jim_hoyland |
Oct 28 2016, 05:57 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,258 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Many late cars, like mine, had the coil mounted on the forward passenger side of the fan housing. A special bracket fits there and an 8mm hex-head holds in in.
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| rudedude |
Oct 28 2016, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Does anyone have a picture of this late model bracket or one to sell?
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| jim_hoyland |
Oct 28 2016, 07:36 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,258 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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QUOTE(rudedude @ Oct 28 2016, 06:02 AM) Does anyone have a picture of this late model bracket or one to sell? I just picked one up at the Swapmeet; Bruce Stone may have them made and available. I'll post a pic shortly..... |
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| jim_hoyland |
Oct 28 2016, 08:24 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,258 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California
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Here's a pic: I glued a thin rubber vibration strip to the inside edge for a tighter grip
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| rudedude |
Oct 28 2016, 09:07 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 508 Joined: 1-January 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,387 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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Thanks
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