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post Oct 31 2016, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 31 2016, 01:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Valy @ Oct 31 2016, 12:27 PM) *

I'm reading this while driving to work.
I think the multi-tasking abilities are different from person to person. For example, I have no difficulties writing this while driving in the city and


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He's OK. If he had crashed he would have typed . AAaaahhhhhh Sh....!

Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't have bothered to text 'Aaaauuuggghhhh'. He'd just say it.
Maybe he was dictating it.
Oh shut up!
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post Oct 31 2016, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(Valy @ Oct 31 2016, 12:27 PM) *

I'm reading this while driving to work.
I think the multi-tasking abilities are different from person to person. For example, I have no difficulties writing this while driving in the city and
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post Oct 31 2016, 01:53 PM
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QUOTE(somd914 @ Oct 31 2016, 11:27 AM) *
I've seen a few near accidents as our local police agencies have been heads down on their laptops, even with a cell phone plugged into their ear. We have one nearby jurisdiction where police must answer calls via texting on their laptop. When the public inquired about the dangers of this, the police responded that they are specially trained for such multitasking. Every report on the subject that I have seen/read says the brain cannot truly multitask, that no task gets completed well in these circumstances.

However, if I get pulled over for using my phone (GPS or music), I get cited since I can't easily prove that I wasn't texting or talking. But not sure, perhaps I can talk my way out of ticket for the far more complex and distracting car infotainment systems that are on the market...
I don't know for sure, but I believe that phone records would prove or disprove that you were engaged in a phone call or text at the time, however, most of the laws surrounding this matter include 'distracted driving' wording - which would including eating a cheeseburger (or a veggie-burger, if it were Elliot) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:00 PM
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Sorry guys, I'm OK. I got an incoming phone call while typing. It seems that phone calls are disruptive after all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:02 PM
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On a serious note, for those with a strange sense of humor, I was joking. Don't text and drive!
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:04 PM
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Almost all smartphones have hardware accelerometers in them now. Cell phone makers join that info with cell tower pings to really nail down your speed and position. This is why, for the most part (depends on the area), emergency services don't really need your location when you call from a cell phone. They already know it.

What we need is something built into the phone that disables it when the accelerometer and cell tower info established that you're moving over a certain speed. Not an app, not something that can be disabled by a 'setting'. Make the emergency call available (just like it is on every iPhone currently) from the initial intro screen.

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post Oct 31 2016, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(Rob-O @ Oct 31 2016, 01:04 PM) *

Almost all smartphones have hardware accelerometers in them now. Cell phone makers join that info with cell tower pings to really nail down your speed and position. This is why, for the most part (depends on the area), emergency services don't really need your location when you call from a cell phone. They already know it.

What we need is something built into the phone that disables it when the accelerometer and cell tower info established that you're moving over a certain speed. Not an app, not something that can be disabled by a 'setting'. Make the emergency call available (just like it is on every iPhone currently) from the initial intro screen.

ATT had this on my Galaxy S5 when I got it new. Disabled it immediately... If your a passenger it still disables your phone. I dont think they added the tech to their new phones due to the fact that no one left it on.
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:19 PM
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QUOTE(Rob-O @ Oct 31 2016, 02:04 PM) *

Almost all smartphones have hardware accelerometers in them now. Cell phone makers join that info with cell tower pings to really nail down your speed and position. This is why, for the most part (depends on the area), emergency services don't really need your location when you call from a cell phone. They already know it.

What we need is something built into the phone that disables it when the accelerometer and cell tower info established that you're moving over a certain speed. Not an app, not something that can be disabled by a 'setting'. Make the emergency call available (just like it is on every iPhone currently) from the initial intro screen.


Android phones already have an app for this.
If I ever text my wife while she is driving, it responds with "I am sorry but I am driving, I will get back to you later".
It can tell she is moving (or connected to her hands free), but I don't know what happens if she is just a passenger.
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post Oct 31 2016, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(stugray @ Oct 31 2016, 12:45 PM) *

QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 31 2016, 01:36 PM) *

QUOTE(Valy @ Oct 31 2016, 12:27 PM) *

I'm reading this while driving to work.
I think the multi-tasking abilities are different from person to person. For example, I have no difficulties writing this while driving in the city and


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He's OK. If he had crashed he would have typed . AAaaahhhhhh Sh....!

Look, if he was dying, he wouldn't have bothered to text 'Aaaauuuggghhhh'. He'd just say it.
Maybe he was dictating it.
Oh shut up!



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He bravely ran away
When danger reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled
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All these "tests" are rigged to prove a point. There is nothing scientific about them, no control group, no tests with and without the phone.
It's also not real world, in 25 years of driving nobody has thrown a box in front of me. I can count the number of near misses on one hand.
Then the "phone" part is a series of questions your friends would never ask, not a conversation, with a time limit that is irrelevant. Failure for Mythbusters.

If driving really required 100% then stereos would be illegal and singing in the car would get you a ticket. Infotainment systems wouldn't be a popular option or addon.

Texting I have to wait til I'm stopped.... I need my other hand to shift (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

On the other hand, I did get rear ended in a drive thru once, by a couple arguing (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

We need better drivers, not restrictions.
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post Oct 31 2016, 07:48 PM
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Here in Massachusetts, cell phone use by teenage drivers is illegal. Texting is illegal for anyone. Isn't cell phone use with a hand held unit illegal in New York? I thought the only legal way there was with a hands free device.
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post Nov 1 2016, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(Andyrew @ Oct 31 2016, 01:18 PM) *

QUOTE(Rob-O @ Oct 31 2016, 01:04 PM) *

Almost all smartphones have hardware accelerometers in them now. Cell phone makers join that info with cell tower pings to really nail down your speed and position. This is why, for the most part (depends on the area), emergency services don't really need your location when you call from a cell phone. They already know it.

What we need is something built into the phone that disables it when the accelerometer and cell tower info established that you're moving over a certain speed. Not an app, not something that can be disabled by a 'setting'. Make the emergency call available (just like it is on every iPhone currently) from the initial intro screen.

ATT had this on my Galaxy S5 when I got it new. Disabled it immediately... If your a passenger it still disables your phone. I dont think they added the tech to their new phones due to the fact that no one left it on.



And it makes it really hard to catch pokemon... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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post Nov 1 2016, 08:32 PM
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Unbelievably, the son of a friend considers driving a "distraction" from his use of his smart phone. I stifled an onerous reply, wanted to tell that college kid to get rid of his car, save the money, and just call uber. But, I held my tongue. Unfortunately, that is not an atypical attitude among todays' youth.

My retirement job takes me on the surface streets and interstates in and around Cincinnati four days a week. Virtually every day I see accidents, almost always rear-end collisions (distraction perhaps?). Every day drivers not moving when traffic signals show green. Every day stop signs being overlooked. Every day red lights ignored. Every day people driving 5, 10, 15 or 20 mph below the posted speed limit. Every day people veering out of their lane and into either adjacent or oncoming traffic. Though cell phone use is not always the cause, my unscientific observations seem to indicate that its use usually precipitates the incident.

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post Nov 2 2016, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ Nov 1 2016, 07:32 PM) *

Unbelievably, the son of a friend considers driving a "distraction" from his use of his smart phone. I stifled an onerous reply, wanted to tell that college kid to get rid of his car, save the money, and just call uber. But, I held my tongue. Unfortunately, that is not an atypical attitude among todays' youth.


It's the age difference mentality. Try talking to him on Snapchat.
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Paul, that matches my experience in Cincy. Awhile back I came upon an SUV weaving and slowing down/speeding up on the highway, and as I snuck around them saw that they were talking on the cell, applying mascara, and eating a sandwich!!

I was the 3rd car in a chain reaction last month, the guy that caused it just came upon a line of stopped traffic at a light and couldn't stop in time. Flat, straight, multi-lane road, 100% visibility, rush hour traffic. No reason not the be watching, nothing to obscure anything going on. He was distracted by something.
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The most simple solution still works:


HANG UP AND DRIVE!

I am oncall 24x7. My management knows that if I am driving, I will not answer the cell phone at all. No texts, no handsfree, no nothing. So they leave a message. I call when I get to my destination. If they call twice in a row, I will pull off at the next safe place and call back because I know it is an emergency.

I value my life too much to risk it by talking on a cell phone.

One of our local PCA members got his daughter a Boxster for her first car. He disconnected the radio, removed the passenger seat, and put in a roll bar with a petty bar across the passenger compartment. He set her cell phone to stop working if it exceeded 15 mph and locked out her ability to change that setting.

She never had an accident or a ticket, Until she got a different car.




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[quote name='somd914' date='Oct 31 2016, 02:27 PM' post='2418045']
When the public inquired about the dangers of this, the police responded that they are specially trained for such multitasking.

What a crock of sh!t
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