My clutch tube repair, D'OH! |
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My clutch tube repair, D'OH! |
eyesright |
Nov 3 2016, 05:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
My clutch tube looked bad at the firewall...
...but the tube was secure in the tunnel. So I figured I might get away with some JB Weld plugging the firewall......BZZZZT!....WROOOOOONG!....Memories from 42 years ago of my never to be forgotten drill instructor hollering, "WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING, ASSBAG??!!!" caused me to assume the position and begin pushups forever. Once I recovered my confidence I thought I'd offer morning donuts, or afternoon BBQ and several 914 experts would show up with welders and I'd be able to take a drive to happy hour at Sonic drive-in for half price burgers after 5PM. Then I remembered that this is Oklahoma and it would take more than donuts and beer to lure the experts from the coast to bail me out. So I came up with this little gem... |
Mikey914 |
Nov 3 2016, 05:28 PM
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The rubber man Group: Members Posts: 12,646 Joined: 27-December 04 From: Hillsboro, OR Member No.: 3,348 Region Association: None |
Good thing you replaced the fuel line with steel, I'd still be concerned over time it will wear as it's not isolated.
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eyesright |
Nov 3 2016, 05:29 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Attached to the firewall with stainless screws it looked like this...
Then I knew I'd have to re-secure the tube to the tunnel since it broke free after about the third time I shifted with my shoddy, misguided prior repair. Still no accomplished welders showed up so I used two J-bolts, one forward of the shifter and one - pictured here - aft of the shifter. |
eyesright |
Nov 3 2016, 05:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
So here's the final product, clutch and shift rods hooked up. I did add a rubber grommet for the fuel line (I'll keep an eye on it...thanks for the heads up). It clutches and shifts now....but its still on jack stands so the jury is still out. Should I have another au krappe moment I'll swallow my pride and report so to keep others from following the wrong path. PS I'll be replacing the fuel line clamp with FI approved clamps that I finally found even tho this is carb-ed. |
Amphicar770 |
Nov 3 2016, 05:44 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,188 Joined: 20-April 10 From: PA, USA Member No.: 11,639 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No wonder the JB weld did not hold, you forgot to reinforce it wth duct tape. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)
Seriously, given propensity of these tubes to break, I am surprised no one has come up with a reinforcing bracket to help keep it from breaking to begin with. Maybe similar to what you have with a sleeve that slides over the original. Sounds like a job for Tangerine Racing! |
eyesright |
Nov 3 2016, 06:59 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
No wonder the JB weld did not hold, you forgot to reinforce it wth duct tape. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif) Seriously, given propensity of these tubes to break, I am surprised no one has come up with a reinforcing bracket to help keep it from breaking to begin with. Maybe similar to what you have with a sleeve that slides over the original. Sounds like a job for Tangerine Racing! You're right, clutch tubes are a failure waiting to happen...as I found out. If some enterprising 914 shop were to stamp a similar plate out, I'd recommend everyone screw or weld one in place before the tube gives way while travelling to the next Octeenerfest or some similar scenario. I think the welding scares most of us away but surely sheet metal screws should do well while the firewall metal is still sound. |
barefoot |
Nov 3 2016, 07:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,270 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States |
Mine had a thick plate somewhat larger than yours when i got it, when removing the shifter I noted that the clutch tube had a groove worn into it by the shifter (it was on the WRONG side of the shifter !!
I did a clamp at the forward end fashioned from an electrical tube clamp re-sized for a good fit over the clutch tube, then bolted to the tunnel side. |
iankarr |
Nov 4 2016, 10:51 AM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,472 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
That reinforcing bracket is a great idea...even if everything is welded tight already. Inexpensive insurance.
I have a welder and am not afraid to use it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif), but when my clutch tube broke free at the firewall I had some serious reservations about melting metal 2 inches from the fuel line while lying on my back. Fortunately, I'm less than 2 hours away from Chris/Tangerine, so he handled it. But this bracket would've been a great option. And probably something I'd still install now if available! |
eyesright |
Nov 4 2016, 06:05 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 430 Joined: 8-January 12 From: OK Member No.: 13,979 Region Association: Southwest Region |
That reinforcing bracket is a great idea...even if everything is welded tight already. Inexpensive insurance. I have a welder and am not afraid to use it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif), but when my clutch tube broke free at the firewall I had some serious reservations about melting metal 2 inches from the fuel line while lying on my back. Fortunately, I'm less than 2 hours away from Chris/Tangerine, so he handled it. But this bracket would've been a great option. And probably something I'd still install now if available! Eyeballing measurements with a 6" ruler and it took the second try to get it to what you see. But once it was made and painted it was a 5 minute installation...drill one hole with the bracket in place and add a screw. Then drill and add the second and its secured. Then drill and add the others. Of course three or four slides out from under the car to get another tool and reinstalling the clutch cable...ohh that's a pain. But the bracket is cheap, quick and easy. Duct tape......duct tape....Say that's just what I need to repair the wiring harness snorkel...and, and, even to seal off the speedo cable tube since brand new cables always come with the boot on backwards or something...aaargh. |
pbanders |
Nov 4 2016, 07:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 939 Joined: 11-June 03 From: Phoenix, AZ Member No.: 805 |
Looks like what my Sunnyvale mechanic (Bob Grigsby) did for mine years ago. He secured it so that it could withstand nuclear attack. Only way to go.
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bandjoey |
Nov 4 2016, 09:15 PM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,923 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Metal on metal. Wouldn't that cut the tube in half in a short period of time ?
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gtbarnes |
Feb 15 2022, 06:06 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 10 Joined: 9-July 13 From: nash,tn Member No.: 16,111 Region Association: South East States |
That reinforcing bracket is a great idea...even if everything is welded tight already. Inexpensive insurance. I have a welder and am not afraid to use it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif), but when my clutch tube broke free at the firewall I had some serious reservations about melting metal 2 inches from the fuel line while lying on my back. Fortunately, I'm less than 2 hours away from Chris/Tangerine, so he handled it. But this bracket would've been a great option. And probably something I'd still install now if available! Eyeballing measurements with a 6" ruler and it took the second try to get it to what you see. But once it was made and painted it was a 5 minute installation...drill one hole with the bracket in place and add a screw. Then drill and add the second and its secured. Then drill and add the others. Of course three or four slides out from under the car to get another tool and reinstalling the clutch cable...ohh that's a pain. But the bracket is cheap, quick and easy. Duct tape......duct tape....Say that's just what I need to repair the wiring harness snorkel...and, and, even to seal off the speedo cable tube since brand new cables always come with the boot on backwards or something...aaargh. LOL You are right about the GEMO Spedo cable, boot always on backward! BUT it actually CAN be pulled off and put back on(looks impossible) the right way,(slippery stuff and vice grips) and it fits the speedo tube real nice! A large 1/2 flat washer welded to the tube is a 5 min fix if the firewall isnt torn to badly... then add 1 in tunnel weld/clamp(in the shifter area) to stop firewall flex. The flat washer is also good easy insurance if the tube has not pulled inward yet! (it welds to the tube real easy, no need for a Pro welder) |
AZBanks |
Feb 16 2022, 10:44 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,058 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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AZBanks |
Feb 16 2022, 10:47 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,058 Joined: 7-December 05 From: New River, AZ Member No.: 5,245 Region Association: Southwest Region |
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rjames |
Feb 16 2022, 11:05 AM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,917 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
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Superhawk996 |
Feb 16 2022, 12:09 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,767 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I don't know whether to congratuate you guys for keeping cars on the road by any means necessary or to give you a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) CSOB award. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Put some duct tape or electrical tape over that parking brake cable with the exposed inner core. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) That metal lug that is bent up to support (and chafing) the parking brake cable could use a $1.22 P-clip too! But I've got to say - good job and great creativity aimed at keeping metal on the road! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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