914 2.0 T-IV Weber Set-up, Chokes & Jets |
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914 2.0 T-IV Weber Set-up, Chokes & Jets |
Keith914 |
Dec 7 2016, 10:06 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 29-April 16 From: Laguna Beach, California 92651 Member No.: 19,948 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks for the generous advice. I am waiting for the 220 air correction jets as my next step.
What air/fuel ratio at cruising speeds (say above 3000 rpm) is a good target? |
jmill |
Dec 8 2016, 02:07 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Thanks for the generous advice. I am waiting for the 220 air correction jets as my next step. What air/fuel ratio at cruising speeds (say above 3000 rpm) is a good target? Jake Raby posted his recommendation a while back. I can't remember what he said. I do know he pays more attention to EGT than AFR. IMHO @ 13.5ish. I'd be happy if it stayed under 14 and above 13. I have an ancient Heathkit AFR so accuracy is a factor. |
Keith914 |
Dec 8 2016, 03:57 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 248 Joined: 29-April 16 From: Laguna Beach, California 92651 Member No.: 19,948 Region Association: Southern California |
Thanks Jim, that is what I am shooting for, high 13's/low 14's at cruising above 3000rpm.
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Boomingbeetle |
Dec 8 2016, 08:11 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 118 Joined: 1-November 16 From: Orange County Member No.: 20,556 Region Association: Southern California |
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iankarr |
Dec 8 2016, 09:27 PM
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K Group: Members Posts: 2,481 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region |
Sweet! What size vents?
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jmill |
Dec 9 2016, 12:50 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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jmill |
Dec 9 2016, 12:56 PM
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Green Hornet Group: Members Posts: 2,449 Joined: 9-May 08 From: Racine, Wisconsin Member No.: 9,038 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
This is where I start for engines in 2.0 - 2.5 liters with a 2.00 AC jet. Yes, they can fall out of the range below but chances are good that it'll be close to it. There are a ton of variables. ET also plays a big factor. 32mm vent = 115 to 130 34mm vent = 125 to 140 36mm vent = 135 to 165 You may find that the 145 mains are too large for 32mm vents. The smaller the vent, the higher the air velocity passing through it. The higher the velocity the lower the pressure. The lower the pressure the more fuel that will be drawn from the mains. From a different thread but relevant. |
brant |
Dec 9 2016, 01:05 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,639 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
very late to this thread
the 36mm vents are great for high rpm and racing but on a street car one that is fighting a transition that is a clear sign that you need more air velocity to pull fuel through the mains.. the smaller vents (venture effect) will pull fuel during that transition problem where you are not seeing enough air speed currently it will run better it will have more mid throttle response it will be faster.... unless your racing and can use your gearing to keep it always above that rpm |
Jake Raby |
Dec 17 2016, 02:29 PM
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Engine Surgeon Group: Members Posts: 9,394 Joined: 31-August 03 From: Lost Member No.: 1,095 Region Association: South East States |
In the last couple of years ethanol enriched fuels, and varying oxygen levels in fuel blends have changed all the rules with jetting. Engines I used to optimize with a 140 main will want a 155 today, with no other changes... Thats just one example.
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72hardtop |
Oct 5 2018, 02:59 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 11-September 13 From: Seattle/HB Ca./Fujieda-Japan Member No.: 16,378 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
In terms of EGT and AFR....
The deathzone is 14:1 - 15:1 range to stay out of at WOT. Once you go lean of 15:1 the EGT will drop quickly. But you need added advance. Will not work with centrifugal only advance distributor. (light load cracked throttle cond.) When I tuned my bus (72 Westy) I ended up with... 28mm vents 47.5 idles 125 mains 180 air corrector F11 tubes Float height 10.5mm (ball not pressed gasket in place) Float drop 32mm At cruise on the highway (flats) with cracked throttle the AFR will hover 16-18. Slight incline/hill with steady peddle the AFR will go mid-high 12-13.2 or so. WOT and the AFR goes low-mid 12's - 13 Around town cracked throttle (light load cond.) 16-17 generally with slight bumps to 18. |
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