unmolested bone stock real six's - how many?, unmolested '70-71 914-6s - how many left? Options

[larryM]

just curious

1. - has anyone counted the number of "real sixes" that are roadworthy, or in true-back-to-stock-resto process, that are essentially "as delivered" bone stock & never "improved" with newer or later engines, transaxles, body & suspension mods, etc?

2. - how many real sixes '70-72 in any form are there that are road worthy or track-ready right now?

3. - how many real sixes upgraded to some form of "471" or GT-like prep, with flares, etc, that are currently road worthy or track-ready?

is there a short list of VINs & owners for either category of these real sixes?

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[gereed75]

Forget the bone stock for a minute.

forget Europe for a minute.

My guess looking at the numbers:

1700 imported
410 gone - 30% - wrecked, rotted, neglected
200 of the remaining converted to race cars or Chalons or something

That leaves maybe 1100 potentially road going drivers??? Just did a quick count on the registry - about 825 listed. 75% of remaining listed seems a big percentage of the surviving population but it may be reasonable (there are many Euro cars on the registry that would bring down this US only estimate, but most are US).

Of those 1100 survivors maybe 5% all original??

I would thing these numbers come down for ROW - ie a bigger percentage of the US population survived.

Anybody else here have better insight into typical old car fleet stats??

[larryM]

excellent - Thanks all - nice info (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

and also thanks to john for the link to Glen's lists

when i said "unmolested" or "as delivered" - i didn't intend it to mean PCA "Preservation" status

mea culpa - i should really have said something like "maintained to as-delivered" - i.e. 110 hp non-counterweight T engine, stock brakes, trans, wheels, suspension, body & interiors - aftermarket oem-equivalent parts, uipholstery & paint OK,

- i didn't mean "never had a wrench on it or paint touch-up or a re-painted to oem"

I was looking for perspective on the marketplace & perceived valuations after reading various adverts claiming such as "all-original & matching numbers; over 100K in receipts invested in perfect restoration, etc "

AND reading C&D piece that suggested that a younger segment of the present day "vintage" market trend is more interested in appearance and modernization than originality - (heat, A/C & 400 hp trump original guts)

- which might suggest that a GT-look 914 with a LS3 or Subie 3.0 or 3.6 & tiptronic on 18" alloys might become a hotter seller than an anemic 110 hp stock six on 5x15s ??


> to the point below about RoW cars - long ago when I was researching my car thru PCA Germany contacts, i learned that most 914s there had long since rusted away & been junked due to the salt used on winter roads - the TUV has strict stds about roadworthy-ness, as do a few USA States <

p.s.
(i grew up in Iowa - saw plenty of rusted-in-half 914s & 911s, in those days that you could not lift at the jacking point (even owned a few); as well as 240Zs where the struts were no longer attached to any upper body structure) - i am aware that some folks like such barn-finds and love the resurrection challenge - not me

My guess looking at the numbers:

1700 imported
410 gone - 30% - wrecked, rotted, neglected
200 of the remaining converted to race cars or Chalons or something

That leaves maybe 1100 potentially road going drivers??? Just did a quick count on the registry - about 825 listed. 75% of remaining listed seems a big percentage of the surviving population but it may be reasonable (there are many Euro cars on the registry that would bring down this US only estimate, but most are US).

Of those 1100 survivors maybe 5% all original??

I would think these numbers come down for ROW - ie a bigger percentage of the US population survived.