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> Found 914/6 Value Help Please
Karguy12
post Dec 8 2016, 10:04 PM
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I am no Porsche expert although I have owned a few over the years. Ran across a 914 in a warehouse that is supposedly a 914/6. It has a 914/6 VIN stamped into the front right apron that looks factory (914043xXXX) The engine numbers match, trans numbers match and it has all of the 914/6 details that I could find like five bolt Fuchs, correct gauges, ignition, wiring harness, engine mounts, oil cooler, rear valance, etc. But the owner says he does not think it is a real 914/6 car. It has been in the warehouse for over 30 years and needs restoration but it is a very solid and straight car.

Engine is out as is the trans. The rear fuchs are a little wider than the fronts. The owner is asking me to make him an offer. So what I need to know is
a. What is this car worth if it has ALL of the 914/6 stuff and it is NOT a real car?, and
b. What would it be worth in this condition if it WAS a real car?


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post Dec 9 2016, 06:13 AM
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Does it have mounts or evidence of once having the engine mounts from a four cylinder car? They aren't impossible to hide but it takes a bit of work.

There are small differences on a 6. Like reduced strength torsion springs for the engine lid since it didn't have a rain tray. I think the stamping in the trunk might be different in a 6. But if it has the engingine mounts for the crossbar of a four cylinder engine. Bingo!
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Does it have mounts or evidence of once having the engine mounts from a four cylinder car? They aren't impossible to hide but it takes a bit of work.

There are small differences on a 6. Like reduced strength torsion springs for the engine lid since it didn't have a rain tray. I think the stamping in the trunk might be different in a 6. But if it has the engingine mounts for the crossbar of a four cylinder engine. Bingo!


I will have to go back and check more details. So let's say it DOES have the -4 engine mounts. What would the value of the car be with all of the correct 914/6 parts? Basically a regular 914 with all of the parts from a 914/6 including a correct VIN that looks original and un-tampered with? The VIN it has does not appear in any registry.


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QUOTE(mepstein @ Dec 9 2016, 07:13 AM) *

Does it have mounts or evidence of once having the engine mounts from a four cylinder car? They aren't impossible to hide but it takes a bit of work.

There are small differences on a 6. Like reduced strength torsion springs for the engine lid since it didn't have a rain tray. I think the stamping in the trunk might be different in a 6. But if it has the engingine mounts for the crossbar of a four cylinder engine. Bingo!


I will have to go back and check more details. So let's say it DOES have the -4 engine mounts. What would the value of the car be with all of the correct 914/6 parts? Basically a regular 914 with all of the parts from a 914/6 including a correct VIN that looks original and un-tampered with? The VIN it has does not appear in any registry.

Its up to you if you want to get involved with a vin switched car. It could be anywhere from a hassle with your DMV to a illegal vehicle. You might want to get some independent legal advice before you purchase.
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Karguy12   Found 914/6 Value Help Please   Dec 8 2016, 10:04 PM
SirAndy   It has a 914/6 VIN stamped into the front right ap...   Dec 8 2016, 10:14 PM
bdstone914   If the owner does not think it is a real six let h...   Dec 8 2016, 10:51 PM
jd74914   If the owner does not think it is a real six let ...   Dec 9 2016, 10:46 AM
porschetub   If the owner does not think it is a real six let ...   Dec 10 2016, 03:23 AM
mepstein   Does it have mounts or evidence of once having the...   Dec 9 2016, 06:13 AM
Karguy12   Does it have mounts or evidence of once having th...   Dec 9 2016, 06:59 AM
mepstein   Does it have mounts or evidence of once having t...   Dec 9 2016, 07:23 AM
Cairo94507   To many variables really. Pull it out and take so...   Dec 9 2016, 07:24 AM
Karguy12   To many variables really. Pull it out and take s...   Dec 9 2016, 11:09 AM
smg914   I see that it has a 914-4 engine lid drip pan.   Dec 9 2016, 07:28 AM
Kaeferfreund   Without knowing the complete VIN there is much spe...   Dec 9 2016, 08:04 AM
6freak   :popcorn: pictures sir! but look n at the r...   Dec 9 2016, 08:44 AM
GeorgeRud   That's a 1970 VIN, so it should have non-retra...   Dec 9 2016, 09:50 AM
sixnotfour   rain tray, there is a first for everything   Dec 9 2016, 10:30 AM
Cairo94507   In the 47 years since these cars were made a lot c...   Dec 9 2016, 10:40 AM
396   I am no Porsche expert although I have owned a fe...   Dec 9 2016, 11:07 AM
toolguy   Looking it at if from a different perspective, It...   Dec 9 2016, 11:36 AM
Dave_Darling   The biggest question to me is the VIN. If it is i...   Dec 9 2016, 01:28 PM
Mike Fitton   Does it have this set of gauges? Note the unusual ...   Dec 9 2016, 02:51 PM
Coondog   Ok I will give you a number 914-4 offer 2,000 ...   Dec 9 2016, 03:10 PM
Karguy12   I was able to get to see the parts stash for the c...   Dec 9 2016, 03:41 PM
gereed75   That is a 6 case type number. Not sure about the ...   Dec 9 2016, 03:54 PM
Karguy12   That is a 6 case type number. Not sure about the...   Dec 9 2016, 04:34 PM
GeorgeRud   It does have the appropriate bracket for a -6 thro...   Dec 9 2016, 05:22 PM
Karguy12   It does have the appropriate bracket for a -6 thr...   Dec 9 2016, 05:51 PM
toolguy   914-6 transmission have a number on the bottom fin...   Dec 9 2016, 06:17 PM
Mike Fitton   914-6 transmission have a number on the bottom fi...   Dec 9 2016, 08:16 PM
sixnotfour   and the trams ear is broke off   Dec 9 2016, 07:14 PM
Karguy12   and the trams ear is broke off Yes, I saw that....   Dec 9 2016, 07:23 PM
carr914   I see that it has a 914-4 engine lid drip pan. ...   Dec 9 2016, 07:48 PM
Karguy12   Can anyone tell me what a 914/6 engine and trans m...   Dec 9 2016, 08:07 PM
Dave_Darling   Can anyone tell me what a 914/6 engine and trans ...   Dec 9 2016, 10:04 PM
mepstein   Can anyone tell me what a 914/6 engine and trans...   Dec 10 2016, 07:15 AM
Karguy12   So based on this, if the car is NOT real, I...   Dec 10 2016, 08:21 AM
mepstein   So based on this, if the car is NOT real, I...   Dec 10 2016, 08:35 AM
KELTY360   So based on this, if the car is NOT real, I...   Dec 15 2016, 03:35 PM
orthobiz   Another possibility is that it is a rear clipped...   Dec 16 2016, 04:56 AM
Unobtanium-inc   Another possibility is that it is a rear clippe...   Dec 16 2016, 08:46 AM
Porschef   Very simply, knowledge is power, take T.C. up on h...   Dec 9 2016, 08:13 PM
toolguy   Not necessarily. . The Karman tag on my origina...   Dec 9 2016, 11:18 PM
Mikey914   Soundd like youve hit the jackpot. As long as rust...   Dec 9 2016, 11:30 PM
bretth   Another thing the car should have is the throttle/...   Dec 10 2016, 08:43 AM
396   8- 10k for a 914 6 engine is pretty optimistic...u...   Dec 10 2016, 08:54 AM
mepstein   8- 10k for a 914 6 engine is pretty optimistic......   Dec 10 2016, 09:37 AM
396   8- 10k for a 914 6 engine is pretty optimistic.....   Dec 10 2016, 01:50 PM
sixnotfour   I cant believe this hasn't come up :ttiwwp:...   Dec 10 2016, 10:13 AM
Kaeferfreund   Hi, due to all the numbers (engine, trans) and s...   Dec 10 2016, 01:11 PM
forrestkhaag   I may have missed it in the myriad of responses b...   Dec 11 2016, 11:12 AM
Karguy12   I may have missed it in the myriad of responses ...   Dec 11 2016, 11:15 AM
Larmo63   Offer $12K and go up to 15k. It would be pre...   Dec 11 2016, 12:28 PM
Unobtanium-inc   Always try to get a price or a range out of the se...   Dec 15 2016, 04:53 PM


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