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> Rear Wheel Bearing Difference, Comparison that may have caused my failures
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post Jan 15 2017, 03:50 PM
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For months now I have maintained there is a big difference in the quality of the new rear bearings verses the original ones. Today I had time to compare an original FAG (Germany)and a new SKF (Italy) bearing shells. MY conclusion is what I suspected, the new ones are NOT the same. I took pictures and measurements to document what I saw. I hope the pictures let you see the difference. Guess which one is the original German one!


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post Jan 17 2017, 12:57 PM
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Interesting. It looks like they are trying to save some material cost in the races.

Do they have the same number of balls? If they do I would expect the newer ones to be stronger given larger balls.

What's the failure mechanism? I assume people notice slop, but are the balls or races failing?

Perhaps there is some surface hardness issue? Or a preload mismatch? Do Boxsters have the same loading a 914's? I feel like grease shouldn't be an issue since they are pre-greased and the fact that the bearing world should have a pretty good handle on greases...
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post Jan 17 2017, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(jd74914 @ Jan 17 2017, 10:57 AM) *

I would expect the newer ones to be stronger given larger balls.


Yeah - the young get all the credit in this country...
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914Sixer   Rear Wheel Bearing Difference   Jan 15 2017, 03:50 PM
Krieger   I am new to this discussion, but may be a victim. ...   Jan 15 2017, 06:35 PM
ConeDodger   I am new to this discussion, but may be a victim....   Jan 15 2017, 08:08 PM
Perry Kiehl   I wonder what the age cut off for these are. I...   Jan 15 2017, 07:26 PM
6freak   I wonder what the age cut off for these are. I...   Jan 18 2017, 09:04 AM
914_teener   I wonder what the age cut off for these are. I...   Jan 18 2017, 01:10 PM
6freak   [quote name='6freak' post='2445144' date='Jan 18 ...   Jan 18 2017, 04:24 PM
914_teener   [quote name='6freak' post='2445144' date='Jan 18...   Jan 18 2017, 08:18 PM
Krieger   The Boxster is about 800lbs heavier too. About 20...   Jan 15 2017, 08:36 PM
914Sixer   Yes, the Boxster bearing is the same item. The SK...   Jan 15 2017, 09:57 PM
mbseto   And those Boxster guys know how to pick a bearing....   Jan 16 2017, 09:01 AM
falcor75   Just as a heads up. I live in Sweden and have a fr...   Jan 16 2017, 01:22 PM
altitude411   Just as a heads up. I live in Sweden and have a f...   Jan 17 2017, 12:43 PM
JoeDees   Just as a heads up. I live in Sweden and have a f...   Jan 18 2017, 09:45 AM
Krieger   Mats. Thank you for this information. Crappy to ...   Jan 16 2017, 01:28 PM
jd74914   Interesting. It looks like they are trying to save...   Jan 17 2017, 12:57 PM
worn   I would expect the newer ones to be stronger give...   Jan 17 2017, 05:28 PM
914Sixer   Sloppy bearing after installation. Varying degree...   Jan 17 2017, 07:31 PM
914_teener   Sloppy bearing after installation. Varying degre...   Jan 17 2017, 08:38 PM
jd74914   Bigger and less balls does not equal stronger bea...   Jan 18 2017, 06:54 AM
mb911   I am surprised no one has turned this into a cotta...   Jan 17 2017, 09:21 PM
SixerJ   Does anyone know the old FAG part number and dims ...   Jan 18 2017, 11:56 AM
mepstein   Bearings have a shelf life due to the grease aging...   Jan 18 2017, 09:05 PM
6freak   storage The conditions under which bearings and ...   Jan 19 2017, 08:18 AM
mepstein   What's funny is once the bearing is in our car...   Jan 19 2017, 11:58 AM
914_teener   What's funny is once the bearing is in our ca...   Jan 19 2017, 12:11 PM
6freak   What's funny is once the bearing is in our ca...   Jan 19 2017, 03:29 PM
914Sixer   See tygaboys post. His picture of the bearing all...   Jan 19 2017, 08:29 PM


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