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914 score of the Century, The investigation begins |
dcheek |
Feb 6 2017, 08:19 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
A very good friend on mine scored what I think could be deal of the century. He is a VW collector and has restored/modified many air cooled VW's over the years. He is not that familiar with Porsches and has asked me to give him advise as to what he has purchased and what he should do with it.
I got a call this past Sunday that he purchased a Porsche 914- 6 from an estate for $1000.00 !!! Of course, the first question I asked was what the serial number was to determine if it was a real "6". Turns out that it was a '74 converted to a "6". From the pictures it looks like it has an early naturally aspired 911 motor. My question is where is the serial number on the motor? We are curious as to how old the motor is and determine what the displacement could be. The motor does turn and there is no outward signs of rust including the Hell Hole. Tomorrow I will accompany him to inspect further and take some more pictures. I would like to find the engine number at that time. Dave Attached image(s) |
defianty |
Feb 14 2017, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. |
mountainroads |
Feb 15 2017, 10:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR |
flyer86d |
Feb 15 2017, 10:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 421 Joined: 12-January 11 From: Corea, Maine Member No.: 12,585 Region Association: North East States |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR 2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow. Charlie |
mountainroads |
Feb 15 2017, 10:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR 2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow. Charlie Good point. I was thinking older T's. One additional detail that might explain. Snipped from another site: "the '73 shroud has a removable section that allows access to an engine mounted oil cooler nut that '72 & earlier shrouds don't. Alan Caldwell, August 2000 PANO, described '69-'73 shroud colors thusly: 911T-black 911E-green 911S-red The exceptions: MFI 911T was yellow, and the '73 1/2 911T with CIS went back to black..." So, if the original injection was CIS instead of MFI, the black shroud would be the correct color, *IF* the moter is actually from a '73 instead of a '72. I'm no expert. Are the CIS injector mounting ports the same as the MFI?. Also, MFI engines had a camshaft extension, drive pulley and additional tin work to make room for the drive belt. Unless someone went to the effort of removing the camshaft snout and building a cover plate, the pulley and/or snout should still be there. Otherwise, it wasn't an MFI engine to begin with. - MR |
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