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> 914 score of the Century, The investigation begins
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post Feb 6 2017, 09:21 PM
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Fiberglass fenders?
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post Feb 6 2017, 11:11 PM
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post Feb 7 2017, 12:11 AM
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Certainly sets a new bench mark in the "bargain buy of the year'',I'am betting its a 2.7 if its an older conversion,these motors sold for peanuts years ago because they were the one to avoid.
I remember when I bought my 911 motor 18yrs ago,it was sitting complete on a wooden pallet in my friends VW shop,I said what are you doing with that and he replied" its for sale make an offer" I offered $1000 for it and settled on $1500,@ the time we had young kids and not a heap of spare cash,borrowed the money off the inlaws and the rest is history...ended up with a great running engine.
Can't wait to see updates on this thread,good luck to the new owner.
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post Feb 7 2017, 01:15 AM
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Even if things like hell hole and longs need work, it was a score.

Even if it needs paint, and other visual things, it was a score.

Even if the mechanicals need to be gone through, it was a score.

In other words, it was a SCORE!!!

Car even has "the look," which isn't always easily achieved. Very cool find...
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post Feb 7 2017, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 6 2017, 07:43 PM) *

I'm bringing the following to inspect the car:

- kneeling pad
- flashlight
- strong magnet
- camera
- jack

Anything else you can think of?

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post Feb 7 2017, 01:30 PM
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Nice score... looks like a MFI engine see the pic. Looks like the heads are plugged up where the injectors would be located. 2.0 to 2.4 are MFI so case & model # would be a great help to id it.

Oh and take Rory with you he knows what to look for.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)


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post Feb 7 2017, 03:21 PM
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Update

We have to wait until Saturday February 11th to meet with the person who is in charge of the sale.

I will post pictures and more information Sunday.

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post Feb 7 2017, 06:14 PM
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exhaust is JPs old exhaust ???


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post Feb 7 2017, 09:42 PM
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post Feb 7 2017, 09:50 PM
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Wait- it has leaves, etc in the engine compartment- better not risk it...
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post Feb 14 2017, 02:53 PM
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Picked up the car today (finally).
It has fiberglass fenders, Sparco seats with shoulder harnesses and Weber carbs. Underneath is very clean with suspension work, oil cooler etc.

Since the owner has passed away and he has no relatives, information as to what was done on the car unknown. From what his girlfriend said he spent 60K for the conversion from a guy in Washington state. It does look like a profession conversion. We are trying to get his name to ask all the necessary questions.

Supposedly, its been sitting outside for a year but it looks like more than that to me. My friend, the new owner, is going to clean it up just to get a good look at what needs to be done. This is his first Porsche, and needless to say he is VERY excited.

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displacement the motor is?

Here is a picture on the trailer ready to be hauled to its new home.
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:07 PM
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QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 03:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displacement the motor is?




I believe some of the late '60's engines started with a 4? I'll have to check my red book when get home.
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post Feb 14 2017, 03:51 PM
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QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 08:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme


Great find.

Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned.
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post Feb 15 2017, 06:38 AM
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QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2017, 01:51 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 08:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme


Great find.

Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned.


It's definitely a 4. Maybe Hans was hungover on Monday when he stamped it!

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post Feb 15 2017, 07:49 AM
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Post a picture of the engine number it does not start with a 4, like above post must be a bad stamp of a star, is there a star at the end of the number?
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post Feb 15 2017, 08:14 AM
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There should be an engine type number stamped too in fairly close proximity to the engine number. They're in this format 9XX/XX, that will help identify the engine. My guess is it's 911/51.
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post Feb 15 2017, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2017, 01:51 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 08:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme


Great find.

Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned.


2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted.

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QUOTE(mountainroads @ Feb 15 2017, 11:12 AM) *

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2017, 01:51 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 08:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme


Great find.

Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned.


2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted.

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2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow.

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QUOTE(flyer86d @ Feb 15 2017, 08:39 AM) *

QUOTE(mountainroads @ Feb 15 2017, 11:12 AM) *

QUOTE(defianty @ Feb 14 2017, 01:51 PM) *

QUOTE(dcheek @ Feb 14 2017, 08:53 PM) *

The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme


Great find.

Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned.


2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted.

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2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow.

Charlie


Good point. I was thinking older T's. One additional detail that might explain. Snipped from another site:

"the '73 shroud has a removable section that allows access to an engine mounted oil cooler nut that '72 & earlier shrouds don't. Alan Caldwell, August 2000 PANO, described '69-'73 shroud colors thusly:
911T-black
911E-green
911S-red
The exceptions: MFI 911T was yellow, and the '73 1/2 911T with CIS went back to black..."

So, if the original injection was CIS instead of MFI, the black shroud would be the correct color, *IF* the moter is actually from a '73 instead of a '72. I'm no expert. Are the CIS injector mounting ports the same as the MFI?. Also, MFI engines had a camshaft extension, drive pulley and additional tin work to make room for the drive belt. Unless someone went to the effort of removing the camshaft snout and building a cover plate, the pulley and/or snout should still be there. Otherwise, it wasn't an MFI engine to begin with.
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post Feb 16 2017, 05:15 PM
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Reminds me of one I looked at in CT several years ago, the leaves in the engine bay especially. This one was supposed to have been garaged, I guess there were trees in the garage, that dropped leaves...
I passed on the car, it was a converted 4. My PPI guy told me to run, don't walk.

$1000 is a super score!


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