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914 score of the Century, The investigation begins |
pete000 |
Feb 6 2017, 09:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States |
Fiberglass fenders?
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Dave_Darling |
Feb 6 2017, 11:11 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Bring a screwdriver, or other poking implement. Use it to test metal to see if it's thin enough to not have any strength.
--DD |
porschetub |
Feb 7 2017, 12:11 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,697 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
Certainly sets a new bench mark in the "bargain buy of the year'',I'am betting its a 2.7 if its an older conversion,these motors sold for peanuts years ago because they were the one to avoid.
I remember when I bought my 911 motor 18yrs ago,it was sitting complete on a wooden pallet in my friends VW shop,I said what are you doing with that and he replied" its for sale make an offer" I offered $1000 for it and settled on $1500,@ the time we had young kids and not a heap of spare cash,borrowed the money off the inlaws and the rest is history...ended up with a great running engine. Can't wait to see updates on this thread,good luck to the new owner. |
horizontally-opposed |
Feb 7 2017, 01:15 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,430 Joined: 12-May 04 From: San Francisco Member No.: 2,058 Region Association: None |
Even if things like hell hole and longs need work, it was a score.
Even if it needs paint, and other visual things, it was a score. Even if the mechanicals need to be gone through, it was a score. In other words, it was a SCORE!!! Car even has "the look," which isn't always easily achieved. Very cool find... |
rgalla9146 |
Feb 7 2017, 12:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,545 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Paramus NJ Member No.: 5,176 Region Association: None |
I'm bringing the following to inspect the car: - kneeling pad - flashlight - strong magnet - camera - jack Anything else you can think of? Dave ME ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
Luke M |
Feb 7 2017, 01:30 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,369 Joined: 8-February 05 From: WNY Member No.: 3,574 Region Association: North East States |
Nice score... looks like a MFI engine see the pic. Looks like the heads are plugged up where the injectors would be located. 2.0 to 2.4 are MFI so case & model # would be a great help to id it.
Oh and take Rory with you he knows what to look for.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) Attached image(s) |
dcheek |
Feb 7 2017, 03:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Update
We have to wait until Saturday February 11th to meet with the person who is in charge of the sale. I will post pictures and more information Sunday. Dave |
sixnotfour |
Feb 7 2017, 06:14 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,412 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
exhaust is JPs old exhaust ???
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whitetwinturbo |
Feb 7 2017, 09:42 PM
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Honey, does this wing make my ass look fat? Group: Members Posts: 1,391 Joined: 22-October 11 From: Newport Beach/Kalefornya/USA Member No.: 13,704 Region Association: Southern California |
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SKL1 |
Feb 7 2017, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Wait- it has leaves, etc in the engine compartment- better not risk it...
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dcheek |
Feb 14 2017, 02:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
Picked up the car today (finally).
It has fiberglass fenders, Sparco seats with shoulder harnesses and Weber carbs. Underneath is very clean with suspension work, oil cooler etc. Since the owner has passed away and he has no relatives, information as to what was done on the car unknown. From what his girlfriend said he spent 60K for the conversion from a guy in Washington state. It does look like a profession conversion. We are trying to get his name to ask all the necessary questions. Supposedly, its been sitting outside for a year but it looks like more than that to me. My friend, the new owner, is going to clean it up just to get a good look at what needs to be done. This is his first Porsche, and needless to say he is VERY excited. The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displacement the motor is? Here is a picture on the trailer ready to be hauled to its new home. |
billh1963 |
Feb 14 2017, 03:07 PM
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Car Hoarder! Group: Members Posts: 3,402 Joined: 28-March 11 From: South Carolina Member No.: 12,871 Region Association: South East States |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displacement the motor is? I believe some of the late '60's engines started with a 4? I'll have to check my red book when get home. |
defianty |
Feb 14 2017, 03:51 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. |
dcheek |
Feb 15 2017, 06:38 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 691 Joined: 30-May 06 From: Westfield, New Jersey Member No.: 6,103 |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. It's definitely a 4. Maybe Hans was hungover on Monday when he stamped it! Dave |
Mike Fitton |
Feb 15 2017, 07:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 609 Joined: 13-May 11 From: Chicago Area Member No.: 13,069 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Post a picture of the engine number it does not start with a 4, like above post must be a bad stamp of a star, is there a star at the end of the number?
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defianty |
Feb 15 2017, 08:14 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 659 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Essex, UK Member No.: 6,621 Region Association: None |
There should be an engine type number stamped too in fairly close proximity to the engine number. They're in this format 9XX/XX, that will help identify the engine. My guess is it's 911/51.
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mountainroads |
Feb 15 2017, 10:12 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR |
flyer86d |
Feb 15 2017, 10:39 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 422 Joined: 12-January 11 From: Corea, Maine Member No.: 12,585 Region Association: North East States |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR 2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow. Charlie |
mountainroads |
Feb 15 2017, 10:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 210 Joined: 19-February 12 From: Seattle Member No.: 14,145 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The engine number is 46122821. I thought all 6 cylinder engines started with 6, not 4 ??? Can someone decipher the number to get an idea what year and displaceme Great find. Are you sure that's a 4 at the front and not a star? 6 cylinder engine numbers are seven digits not eight. Ignoring the 4 at the front would make the engine a '72 2.4T which would of had MFI originally as someone mentioned. 2.4T is a good guess and would be a logical candidate for a -6 conversion, since they were the cheapest and most plentiful. Black engine shroud supports that. (Black = T, Green = E, Red = S). The shrouds are somewhat swappable and paintable, so that's no absolute guarantee. Plus having the afore-mentioned MFI, as previously noted. - MR 2.4 T MFI shrouds are yellow. Charlie Good point. I was thinking older T's. One additional detail that might explain. Snipped from another site: "the '73 shroud has a removable section that allows access to an engine mounted oil cooler nut that '72 & earlier shrouds don't. Alan Caldwell, August 2000 PANO, described '69-'73 shroud colors thusly: 911T-black 911E-green 911S-red The exceptions: MFI 911T was yellow, and the '73 1/2 911T with CIS went back to black..." So, if the original injection was CIS instead of MFI, the black shroud would be the correct color, *IF* the moter is actually from a '73 instead of a '72. I'm no expert. Are the CIS injector mounting ports the same as the MFI?. Also, MFI engines had a camshaft extension, drive pulley and additional tin work to make room for the drive belt. Unless someone went to the effort of removing the camshaft snout and building a cover plate, the pulley and/or snout should still be there. Otherwise, it wasn't an MFI engine to begin with. - MR |
Unobtanium-inc |
Feb 16 2017, 05:15 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,201 Joined: 29-November 06 From: New York Member No.: 7,276 Region Association: None |
Reminds me of one I looked at in CT several years ago, the leaves in the engine bay especially. This one was supposed to have been garaged, I guess there were trees in the garage, that dropped leaves...
I passed on the car, it was a converted 4. My PPI guy told me to run, don't walk. $1000 is a super score! Attached thumbnail(s) |
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