Very nice Panorama 914 spread... Options

[jim_hoyland]

Anyone know this car ? Interesting article in this months issue

[914forme]

Like the body colored bumper tops

[Cracker]

I was delighted to see a wonderful 11-page feature of a 914/6 conversion in the most recent copy of Panorama today. Great looking car!

Gotta love the opening line to the article, "What do you do with two ordinary Porsches? Make one special Porsche

Sorry if this has already been posted...

T

[ConeDodger]

I love that line... like the Mormon Tabernacle Chior morphing into Led Zeppelin... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

[Larmo63]

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I can't wait to hear my new mill.

[struckn]

The Beautiful 914 is David Mathews, is he a 914 World Member here?

[mgp4591]

I love that line... like the Mormon Tabernacle Chior morphing into Led Zeppelin... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)

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I can hear them breaking into Kashmir now!!

[Maltese Falcon]

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[GeorgeRud]

Great story! I did a similar thing using my 75 Targa and a '73 914 1.7 as the sum ends up being more than the sum of the parts. A big engined 914-6 is probably one of the nicest cars to drive. Great, light handling with lots of power!

[larryM]

yes- good story - questionable economics

he has a very nice car - he likes it - and he uses it
- & has an unlimited checkbook

a true personalized Porsche - no "collector value" ascribed (yet)

take a driver quality 911 Carrera worth $20-25K as it was, plus a $4K slightly rusty driver 914-2.0, and spend "thousands" (owner's words) to make the perfect "almost GT" wannabe conversion including a 3.2 rebuild & 915 rebuild/conversion (just google the cost of each)

purely a "personalized Porsche" which recent sales/offers & auction results and World posts suggest is not much valued in the marketplace

helluva lot of these conversion projects going on now-a-days -

our marketplace is replete with GT repro parts & more are being offered monthly (multiple suppliers/mfgrs of same repro stuff means the prices are going to get soft - just watch 'em on ebay as entrepreneurs' speculative inventories age)

- that means we all think we can build a "real GT" better & cheaper than the other guy did

- the "dealer option Competition Option Group 471 letter" of 03-1971 makes it all sort-of legit - (well... only for original sixes of certain lineage- models 914014 & 914019 - whatever those were??)

- and it will be arguably worth more than the other guy's, with far less "invested" cash since we did all 2000 hrs +/- labor in our own garage at no cost - and we'll have further improved on esoteric things "he" ignored (or did'na have the cash or time for)

for a comparison - consider Paul Sayegh's featured 3.6 conversion - asking price was $60K - and it sold - presumably at ask - untold cost to build


. so it goes

[larryM]

parallel thread -

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=304894

[SirAndy]

parallel thread -
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=304894

Not anymore ...
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[ConeDodger]

yes- good story - questionable economics

he has a very nice car - he likes it - and he uses it
- & has an unlimited checkbook

a true personalized Porsche - no "collector value" ascribed (yet)

take a driver quality 911 Carrera worth $20-25K as it was, plus a $4K slightly rusty driver 914-2.0, and spend "thousands" (owner's words) to make the perfect "almost GT" wannabe conversion including a 3.2 rebuild & 915 rebuild/conversion (just google the cost of each)

purely a "personalized Porsche" which recent sales/offers & auction results and World posts suggest is not much valued in the marketplace

helluva lot of these conversion projects going on now-a-days -

our marketplace is replete with GT repro parts & more are being offered monthly (multiple suppliers/mfgrs of same repro stuff means the prices are going to get soft - just watch 'em on ebay as entrepreneurs' speculative inventories age)

- that means we all think we can build a "real GT" better & cheaper than the other guy did

- the "dealer option Competition Option Group 471 letter" of 03-1971 makes it all sort-of legit - (well... only for original sixes of certain lineage- models 914014 & 914019 - whatever those were??)

- and it will be arguably worth more than the other guy's, with far less "invested" cash since we did all 2000 hrs +/- labor in our own garage at no cost - and we'll have further improved on esoteric things "he" ignored (or did'na have the cash or time for)

for a comparison - consider Paul Sayegh's featured 3.6 conversion - asking price was $60K - and it sold - presumably at ask - untold cost to build


. so it goes

Yes. It sold at $60K and quickly. I think easily $15K - $20K more could have been had with a little patience.

[Cracker]

The car is far more valuable NOW simply because of the exposure - not something the average conversion will ever come close to getting. I am almost certain this car will be in another owners garage within 3-6 months. I have seen it several times - unlimited pocketbook builds and "another" unlimited buyer has to have it - the easy way too. Good for the builders, owners and buyers. I see no reason to cut the car or decisions - it was a good read, a nice looking custom car and a teener got mad exposure. Sometimes, things just fall into place...

Tony

yes- good story - questionable economics

he has a very nice car - he likes it - and he uses it
- & has an unlimited checkbook

a true personalized Porsche - no "collector value" ascribed (yet)

[Cracker]

Maybe so Rob but I wouldn't bet on it - 60k for a conversion - even as nice as Paul's would be record setting territory - for a teener. The old saying that "there's always an ass for a seat" applies to what you are saying but it might have taken quite awhile to find that special tail.

T

for a comparison - consider Paul Sayegh's featured 3.6 conversion - asking price was $60K - and it sold - presumably at ask - untold cost to build
. so it goes

Yes. It sold at $60K and quickly. I think easily $15K - $20K more could have been had with a little patience.

[GeorgeRud]

Some of these projects are not about money, but the excitement of actually doing the conversion. If you do it yourself, it is still an expensive proposition, but the satisfaction of completing the project and driving it is priceless!

I started mine as the values of original -6 started climbing in value and you no longer wanted to modify it. An old rusty 911 Targa was worth little back in the day, so why not take the good parts and replace the chassis? A 914 4 cylinder is a great chassis to use for such a project, so go for it if you have the skills and funds available?

[dhm]

I'm the guy with the car.
During the course of my 'membership' in 914World, I've personally met a few of you, purchased parts from a couple of vendors, contacted certain members with specific questions, and occasionally...very occasionally posted.
What I've learned is a universal truth: opinions are like belly buttons, each of us has a different one.
This 914 was my very first Porsche. It stranded me on the side of the road 15 miles from my point of purchase--vapor lock. The donor Carrera was the last old Porsche that found its way into my garage. It was also the first car I wrote about. Pete published my '20-Footer' in the December 2011 issue of excellence mag.
Transformation was completely and absolutely a personal choice. I wish that I had the talent, the vision, and the time to have done the conversion myself. I do not. Therefore, I sought out the best craftsmen in my area to do the work and paid the bills.
My 914-6 conversion is exactly what I wanted. No compromise. I was able to do it; consequently, I did it. Those who have seen my car, for the most part, like it. Others tell me I should have done this or that. I smile and dismiss those comments. It's my car.
Nor did I enter this project with the thought of selling the car when the transformation was complete. I knew from the start that I would never sell the car for the cost of the conversion. That's okay with me. That was always okay with me. My youngest son loves the car, was with me during the photo shoot, and will likely end up with it when I am too old to squeeze behind the steering wheel.
Another thing I enjoy doing is writing. It was natural, therefore, to combine both my love of that old Porsche with the love of writing.
So, there you have it. Post your questions/comments if you want. If I can answer or clarify something, I will.
And yes...the sound of the 3.2l is awesome.

[Cracker]

All I have to add is BRAVO!

Tony

[ndfrigi]

Congratulation and good your son will have this car and to his child in the future!

[Steve]

Congratulations!! Awesome car, awesome article!! I also have a 3.2 914 with a 916 trans, thanks to Martin Bott.
By the looks of the exhaust, I would guess you went with wevo for the 915?