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> What's your A/F on Overrun?, 'Nother D-Jet A/F Question
BeatNavy
post Mar 12 2017, 12:28 PM
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For those with D-Jet, what are you typically seeing for A/F ratio on a medium to hard overrun? Based on what I've read here mine seems too rich - like in 10's and 11's. Once the RPM's drop closer to idle it bounces back up to normal idle A/F ratios. Does A/F on overrun even matter?
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post Mar 12 2017, 06:13 PM
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Not particularly. That's sort of been the root cause of my continuous futzing with D-Jet recently. It runs well, but mileage is not great best I can tell. With 2056 I've never got better than 20 mpg driving to/from work -- 20 minutes of "parkway" driving which is 95% of what I do. I maybe got closer to 23 to 25 last year going to and from Hershey on the highway. Maybe that's all I should expect (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I've swapped out different combos of CHT and with and without spacer recently, and I got leaner, and hotter, after removing the spacer, but interestingly the mileage didn't seem to get better. The spacer I had on the CHT was long - like 23 mm -- and seemed to act more like a ballast resistor and enriched mixture even after warm-up. Today I cut the spacer down some to try to allow good warm-up while still allowing the CHT to get to "operating temp" that's not too rich or lean.

I may be chasing a couple of minor issues...but I wanted to see what a "normal" overrun A/F would be as this hasn't really changed with all the screwing around I've done.


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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Mar 12 2017, 06:13 PM) *

Not particularly. That's sort of been the root cause of my continuous futzing with D-Jet recently. It runs well, but mileage is not great best I can tell. With 2056 I've never got better than 20 mpg driving to/from work -- 20 minutes of "parkway" driving which is 95% of what I do. I maybe got closer to 23 to 25 last year going to and from Hershey on the highway. Maybe that's all I should expect (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I've swapped out different combos of CHT and with and without spacer recently, and I got leaner, and hotter, after removing the spacer, but interestingly the mileage didn't seem to get better. The spacer I had on the CHT was long - like 23 mm -- and seemed to act more like a ballast resistor and enriched mixture even after warm-up. Today I cut the spacer down some to try to allow good warm-up while still allowing the CHT to get to "operating temp" that's not too rich or lean.

I may be chasing a couple of minor issues...but I wanted to see what a "normal" overrun A/F would be as this hasn't really changed with all the screwing around I've done.



just a point of reference
and I'm not 2056, but rather the stock 1994cc(?)

but I'm averaging 31mpg highway with stock Djet on a stock motor
I purchased the motor used and was told it has a F.I. cam
but really its stock as far as seat of the pants dyno
I did adjust the MPS for richer numbers on this motor using an AF meter

just a point of reference.
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BeatNavy   What's your A/F on Overrun?   Mar 12 2017, 12:28 PM
mgphoto   For those with D-Jet, what are you typically seei...   Mar 12 2017, 04:23 PM
BeatNavy   Good. No popping, if that's what you're a...   Mar 12 2017, 04:44 PM
mgphoto   Good. No popping, if that's what you're ...   Mar 12 2017, 05:22 PM
BeatNavy   Not particularly. That's sort of been the roo...   Mar 12 2017, 06:13 PM
mgphoto   Not particularly. That's sort of been the ro...   Mar 12 2017, 11:55 PM
BeatNavy   The issue is not your temp sensor, it's the m...   Mar 13 2017, 03:41 AM
brant   Not particularly. That's sort of been the ro...   Mar 13 2017, 12:19 PM
falcor75   Could leaking injectors cause your WB to read rich...   Mar 13 2017, 04:23 AM
r_towle   have you ever replaced the cold start injector? Th...   Mar 13 2017, 11:16 AM
BeatNavy   have you ever replaced the cold start injector? T...   Mar 13 2017, 12:07 PM
BeatNavy   I did some more looking around today, and I think ...   Mar 19 2017, 11:06 AM
BeatNavy   I'll probably also try plugging off the cold ...   Mar 19 2017, 12:29 PM
nordfisch   ... Not sure if the higher vacuum level at higher...   Sep 29 2018, 03:47 PM
Olympic 914   Did you ever find out any more about this ? I am ...   Aug 15 2017, 06:05 AM
Frank S   Did you ever find out any more about this ? I am...   Sep 27 2018, 10:03 AM
BeatNavy   No, not really. I did refurb the throttle body so...   Aug 15 2017, 06:50 AM
saigon71   I can't speak to your A/F on overrun. I had my...   Aug 15 2017, 07:18 AM
Philip W.   My AF seems to stay around 12.-12.5 I believe - de...   Aug 15 2017, 07:32 AM
BeatNavy   Good question, Bob. In my case I am running stock...   Aug 15 2017, 07:36 AM
Mark Henry   Does A/F on overrun even matter? Overrun and A...   Aug 15 2017, 08:11 AM
Olympic 914   Does A/F on overrun even matter? Overrun and ...   Aug 15 2017, 09:23 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2517213' date='Aug...   Aug 15 2017, 11:31 AM
914_teener   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off.   Aug 15 2017, 11:39 AM
Mark Henry   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off. But it w...   Aug 15 2017, 11:47 AM
914_teener   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off. But it ...   Aug 15 2017, 11:57 AM
barefoot   IIRC D-jet is designed to cut off fuel on closed t...   Aug 15 2017, 11:48 AM
BeatNavy   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle s...   Aug 15 2017, 12:17 PM
914_teener   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle ...   Aug 15 2017, 12:36 PM
Philip W.   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle...   Aug 15 2017, 01:46 PM
914_teener   [quote name='914_teener' post='2517302' date='Aug...   Aug 15 2017, 01:58 PM
Olympic 914   Rob What ECU are you running? You said that yo...   Aug 15 2017, 12:29 PM
BeatNavy   Rob What ECU are you running? You said that y...   Aug 15 2017, 12:36 PM
BeatNavy   Just closing the loop. I actually have an 044 ECU...   Aug 15 2017, 04:59 PM
Dave_Darling   Very early cars would cut fuel on overrun, but tha...   Aug 15 2017, 08:19 PM
Mark Henry   I can't see a system that has no fuel cut havi...   Aug 16 2017, 08:28 AM
Philip W.   Mark I agree, this is what I was seeing and why I ...   Aug 16 2017, 09:00 AM
Mark Henry   I was thinking more on what Dave said, although th...   Aug 16 2017, 09:12 AM
mgphoto   According to Porsche/VW the fuel cut off caused th...   Aug 17 2017, 07:19 PM
BeatNavy   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning a...   Sep 27 2018, 11:20 AM
Olympic 914   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning ...   Sep 27 2018, 04:03 PM
BeatNavy   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning...   Sep 28 2018, 05:48 AM
Frank S   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reasonab...   Sep 27 2018, 11:50 AM
BeatNavy   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reasona...   Sep 27 2018, 12:03 PM
Frank S   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reason...   Sep 27 2018, 12:09 PM
cgnj   Hi, just saw this. A while ago I had a PM exchange...   Sep 27 2018, 03:18 PM


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