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> What's your A/F on Overrun?, 'Nother D-Jet A/F Question
BeatNavy
post Mar 12 2017, 12:28 PM
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For those with D-Jet, what are you typically seeing for A/F ratio on a medium to hard overrun? Based on what I've read here mine seems too rich - like in 10's and 11's. Once the RPM's drop closer to idle it bounces back up to normal idle A/F ratios. Does A/F on overrun even matter?
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post Sep 27 2018, 11:20 AM
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I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning and a host of other things since I originally posted this. Car runs great, idles well, and is blast to drive. But I still see AFR numbers in the 12 range during decal, and my MPG numbers are not great. For the most part, I've given up worrying about it much, particularly since I have plans for a different motor before too long.

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post Sep 27 2018, 04:03 PM
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QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Sep 27 2018, 01:20 PM) *

I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning and a host of other things since I originally posted this. Car runs great, idles well, and is blast to drive. But I still see AFR numbers in the 12 range during decal, and my MPG numbers are not great. For the most part, I've given up worrying about it much, particularly since I have plans for a different motor before too long.

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I also have played around with my MPS, and timing.

On decal I see around 15.0 + afr. I may be running a little on the lean side though.

But on a cruise the AFRs vary from mid 12s to high 14s depending on throttle position.

Do you have a meter to check your MPS values? I have notes around here somewhere with where I set the MPS on my car. Maybe we could compare settings.



Little different system since I have the 037 ECU
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QUOTE(Olympic 914 @ Sep 27 2018, 06:03 PM) *

QUOTE(BeatNavy @ Sep 27 2018, 01:20 PM) *

I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning and a host of other things since I originally posted this. Car runs great, idles well, and is blast to drive. But I still see AFR numbers in the 12 range during decal, and my MPG numbers are not great. For the most part, I've given up worrying about it much, particularly since I have plans for a different motor before too long.

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I also have played around with my MPS, and timing.

On decal I see around 15.0 + afr. I may be running a little on the lean side though.

But on a cruise the AFRs vary from mid 12s to high 14s depending on throttle position.

Do you have a meter to check your MPS values? I have notes around here somewhere with where I set the MPS on my car. Maybe we could compare settings.


Little different system since I have the 037 ECU

My Air/Fuel numbers are pretty good - similar to yours at cruise.

I've actually swapped out like four different 043 MPS's in an attempt to figure out what was going on. Last year I picked up one rebuilt professionally by that company back in the day (Fuel Injection Corp?), and I used that for a while. I assume it was calibrated to stock 2.0, but I didn't notice any real improvement in my MPG, although I was probably slightly lean at cruise.

Earlier this summer I picked up a stock, unmolested 043 that I wanted to use to baseline my MPS values on my inductance meter. That confirmed my suspicion that my (cheap) inductance meter provided significantly different values than those documented by Anders, particularly at part and full load (idle wasn't too bad). So I've used that stock 043 as my "calibration," and adjusted my other MPS to just slightly richer than stock.

I can definitely share my numbers, but what would probably really help is to let you use that stock 043 so you can also calibrate your inductance meter. It's my guess that different models/meters can vary quite a bit. Let me know if your interested.

In terms of my mileage, that remains somewhat of a mystery to me. It could be multiple factors. It could also just be what it is.
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BeatNavy   What's your A/F on Overrun?   Mar 12 2017, 12:28 PM
mgphoto   For those with D-Jet, what are you typically seei...   Mar 12 2017, 04:23 PM
BeatNavy   Good. No popping, if that's what you're a...   Mar 12 2017, 04:44 PM
mgphoto   Good. No popping, if that's what you're ...   Mar 12 2017, 05:22 PM
BeatNavy   Not particularly. That's sort of been the roo...   Mar 12 2017, 06:13 PM
mgphoto   Not particularly. That's sort of been the ro...   Mar 12 2017, 11:55 PM
BeatNavy   The issue is not your temp sensor, it's the m...   Mar 13 2017, 03:41 AM
brant   Not particularly. That's sort of been the ro...   Mar 13 2017, 12:19 PM
falcor75   Could leaking injectors cause your WB to read rich...   Mar 13 2017, 04:23 AM
r_towle   have you ever replaced the cold start injector? Th...   Mar 13 2017, 11:16 AM
BeatNavy   have you ever replaced the cold start injector? T...   Mar 13 2017, 12:07 PM
BeatNavy   I did some more looking around today, and I think ...   Mar 19 2017, 11:06 AM
BeatNavy   I'll probably also try plugging off the cold ...   Mar 19 2017, 12:29 PM
nordfisch   ... Not sure if the higher vacuum level at higher...   Sep 29 2018, 03:47 PM
Olympic 914   Did you ever find out any more about this ? I am ...   Aug 15 2017, 06:05 AM
Frank S   Did you ever find out any more about this ? I am...   Sep 27 2018, 10:03 AM
BeatNavy   No, not really. I did refurb the throttle body so...   Aug 15 2017, 06:50 AM
saigon71   I can't speak to your A/F on overrun. I had my...   Aug 15 2017, 07:18 AM
Philip W.   My AF seems to stay around 12.-12.5 I believe - de...   Aug 15 2017, 07:32 AM
BeatNavy   Good question, Bob. In my case I am running stock...   Aug 15 2017, 07:36 AM
Mark Henry   Does A/F on overrun even matter? Overrun and A...   Aug 15 2017, 08:11 AM
Olympic 914   Does A/F on overrun even matter? Overrun and ...   Aug 15 2017, 09:23 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2517213' date='Aug...   Aug 15 2017, 11:31 AM
914_teener   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off.   Aug 15 2017, 11:39 AM
Mark Henry   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off. But it w...   Aug 15 2017, 11:47 AM
914_teener   It depends on the ecu for fuel cut off. But it ...   Aug 15 2017, 11:57 AM
barefoot   IIRC D-jet is designed to cut off fuel on closed t...   Aug 15 2017, 11:48 AM
BeatNavy   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle s...   Aug 15 2017, 12:17 PM
914_teener   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle ...   Aug 15 2017, 12:36 PM
Philip W.   My understanding is that the TPS detects an idle...   Aug 15 2017, 01:46 PM
914_teener   [quote name='914_teener' post='2517302' date='Aug...   Aug 15 2017, 01:58 PM
Olympic 914   Rob What ECU are you running? You said that yo...   Aug 15 2017, 12:29 PM
BeatNavy   Rob What ECU are you running? You said that y...   Aug 15 2017, 12:36 PM
BeatNavy   Just closing the loop. I actually have an 044 ECU...   Aug 15 2017, 04:59 PM
Dave_Darling   Very early cars would cut fuel on overrun, but tha...   Aug 15 2017, 08:19 PM
Mark Henry   I can't see a system that has no fuel cut havi...   Aug 16 2017, 08:28 AM
Philip W.   Mark I agree, this is what I was seeing and why I ...   Aug 16 2017, 09:00 AM
Mark Henry   I was thinking more on what Dave said, although th...   Aug 16 2017, 09:12 AM
mgphoto   According to Porsche/VW the fuel cut off caused th...   Aug 17 2017, 07:19 PM
BeatNavy   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning a...   Sep 27 2018, 11:20 AM
Olympic 914   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning ...   Sep 27 2018, 04:03 PM
BeatNavy   I played around with my MPS, decal valve, tuning...   Sep 28 2018, 05:48 AM
Frank S   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reasonab...   Sep 27 2018, 11:50 AM
BeatNavy   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reasona...   Sep 27 2018, 12:03 PM
Frank S   AFR of 12 will not hurt the engine and is reason...   Sep 27 2018, 12:09 PM
cgnj   Hi, just saw this. A while ago I had a PM exchange...   Sep 27 2018, 03:18 PM


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