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> Anyone else tried a redneck AC in a 914?, hope my terminology doesn't offend anyone
michael7810
post Mar 20 2017, 01:22 PM
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I will be driving my 914 from Phoenix to WCR in June without AC. It will be 100F+ across the desert anytime the sun is up and 90F+ at night. Since the passenger seat will be empty I decided to make a foam cooler AC unit (aka redneck AC) to help on the drive. There are many youtube videos and they are all basically the same. Cut 2 holes in the top of a foam ice chest; stick a fan in 1 and a PVC nozzle on the other. Fill the chest with ice, turn the fan on and enjoy the coolness.
I had an old tower PC fan and the foam cooler and PVC cost about $10. It was 95F on Saturday so I let the car sit in the sun for a while, inside temp was 101F, loaded the RNAC unit with 30 lb of ice and went for a drive. I didn't check the outlet air temp but it was slightly cool at best. While traveling north the inside temp dropped to 94F after about 25 miles on the highway which was still uncomfortable but with the slightly cool air blowing on my face it felt doable. Holy crap, when I turned south to head home and the sun was on the windshield (original glass with zero tint/UV protection) the inside temp jumped back up to 101F and after a while I thru up the white flag and rolled the windows down. Temp with the windows down was a pleasant 97F.
After many hours of R&D while measuring the outlet temp I found that adding a second outlet hole gained a -2F improvement. I then moved the 2nd outlet close to the fan inlet to allow some recirculation and got another -2F improvement (-4F total). I put a 2nd fan inside the cooler to stir up the air inside but that did not reduce the outlet temp; neither did adding additional outlet holes or a second fan. I got another -3F improvement by adding a piece of pipe on the outlet hole inside the cooler to pick up the air closer to the ice...so now I'm at around 7F lower outlet temp and ready for another test drive.
My wife thinks I'm a total idiot for even thinking about driving my car across the desert in June and even more so once she looked at the contraption in the passenger footwell. I commented that she didn't have to worry about me picking up anyone along the way since there's no room beside the 40 Qt ice chest, to which she replied she never worries about me picking up anyone while driving my 914 even when the passenger seat available...ouch.
Any other ideas or experience out there? Is my wife right?
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post Mar 26 2017, 07:31 PM
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Hey Elliott: I took the easy way out and purchased a B-Kool. I've been busy with out of town company and have not had time to do a proper check-out. I fired it up today in the garage with about 5 lbs of ice and 32 oz of warm water (literature recommends 16-20 oz of water but that was not enough to prime the system so I added another bottle of water). It fits nicely in front of the 914 passenger seat with a little storage area in front of it. It is much quieter than my RNAC and definitely won't be heard driving down the road. The fan seems more than enough for a small car. The coolest air it produced was 52F but remember I only had a small block of ice (4x4x6"). OAT was about 82F. I checked it after about 20 minutes and the ice was almost all melted and the water temp was 42F. I'll do a proper checkout before departing for Rt 66 on 20 April. More to follow...
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michael7810   Anyone else tried a redneck AC in a 914?   Mar 20 2017, 01:22 PM
db9146   Have you ever through about using one of the racin...   Mar 20 2017, 01:41 PM
thelogo   Have you ever through about using one of the raci...   Mar 20 2017, 09:42 PM
Andyrew   I built an icechest system a long time ago that wo...   Mar 20 2017, 01:48 PM
Andyrew   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...chest...   Mar 20 2017, 01:50 PM
zipedadoo   This time of year with the low humidity, I'd t...   Mar 20 2017, 02:21 PM
dlkawashima   I used a FlexiFreeze Ice Vest with an extra set of...   Mar 20 2017, 03:08 PM
Mowog4   I tried the ice chest thing years ago in an origin...   Mar 20 2017, 03:28 PM
Dave_Darling   Swamp cooler might work; the desert is dry enough ...   Mar 20 2017, 04:12 PM
Andyrew   I found with my ice chest you needed to have a flo...   Mar 20 2017, 04:13 PM
Elliot Cannon   Try one of these. http://www.b-kool.net/   Mar 20 2017, 05:52 PM
PanelBilly   Try one of these. http://www.b-kool.net/ This...   Mar 20 2017, 06:08 PM
michael7810   Try one of these. http://www.b-kool.net/ Damn ...   Mar 20 2017, 09:38 PM
Elliot Cannon   [quote name='Elliot Cannon' post='2466216' date='...   Mar 20 2017, 10:02 PM
76-914   Try one of these. http://www.b-kool.net/ Aircra...   Mar 21 2017, 08:58 AM
mgphoto   Try dry ice much colder, don't close the windo...   Mar 20 2017, 05:56 PM
Elliot Cannon   Try dry ice much colder, don't close the wind...   Mar 20 2017, 08:40 PM
JmuRiz   I came expecting a VW swamp cooler too. You can al...   Mar 20 2017, 06:20 PM
tom.esh   My daughter's softball team love the froggtogg...   Mar 20 2017, 07:00 PM
bfrymire   When I saw the title, I thought this was what I wa...   Mar 20 2017, 07:59 PM
thelogo   Shouldn't you be more concerned with The car ...   Mar 20 2017, 09:38 PM
Mowog4   I will be driving my 914 from Phoenix to WCR in J...   Mar 20 2017, 10:23 PM
Andyrew   It could be one more :)   Mar 21 2017, 08:43 AM
db9146   How 'bout a B-Kool in the front trunk with the...   Mar 21 2017, 09:00 AM
zipedadoo   The b-kool only lasts for an hour or two with 20 l...   Mar 21 2017, 01:17 PM
SirAndy   I have one of them spray bottles with an electric ...   Mar 21 2017, 01:31 PM
76-914   I have one of them spray bottles with an electric...   Mar 21 2017, 02:56 PM
Coondog   I have made several trips in my 914 from Apple Val...   Mar 21 2017, 01:32 PM
michael7810   I have made several trips in my 914 from Apple Va...   Mar 21 2017, 10:32 PM
Evil Older Brother   The thread makes me laugh as there is an "ice...   Mar 21 2017, 03:15 PM
Rand   The thread makes me laugh...My 914 had this thing ...   Mar 21 2017, 06:36 PM
Front yard mechanic   2-60 air works best   Mar 21 2017, 04:57 PM
Dave_Darling   Taking the top off is not a good option when tempe...   Mar 21 2017, 05:49 PM
JustinMeier   You just sweat, and have lots of cold water to rep...   Mar 21 2017, 07:40 PM
michael7810   Based on what I've read here, tested in my car...   Mar 22 2017, 07:33 PM
Kansas 914   Stay tuned. :popcorn:   Mar 22 2017, 08:33 PM
Andyrew   I think if you combined what you built with a mist...   Mar 22 2017, 10:25 PM
michael7810   I think if you combined what you built with a mis...   Mar 23 2017, 07:57 AM
Andyrew   I think if you combined what you built with a mi...   Mar 23 2017, 08:50 AM
flmont   I know this sounds crazy,.But, could you install a...   Mar 22 2017, 10:44 PM
Kansas 914   I know this sounds crazy,.But, could you install ...   Mar 23 2017, 07:13 AM
Elliot Cannon   The Bkool unit works about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. You...   Mar 23 2017, 12:45 AM
michael7810   The Bkool unit works about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Yo...   Mar 23 2017, 04:46 PM
Elliot Cannon   The Bkool unit works about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Y...   Mar 23 2017, 09:02 PM
peteyd   This is designed for the 911, but perhaps it could...   Mar 23 2017, 06:22 AM
Kansas 914   This is designed for the 911, but perhaps it coul...   Mar 23 2017, 07:16 AM
mepstein   [quote name='peteyd' post='2467280' date='Mar 23 ...   Mar 23 2017, 08:12 AM
Kansas 914   I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It...   Mar 23 2017, 08:13 AM
peteyd   I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. I...   Mar 23 2017, 08:52 AM
mepstein   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2467323' date='Mar...   Mar 23 2017, 09:10 AM
mepstein   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2467323' date='Ma...   Mar 23 2017, 06:06 PM
Kansas 914   I showed this to the owner of our shop and he tol...   Mar 23 2017, 06:16 PM
Steve   [quote name='Kansas 914' post='2467323' date='Mar...   Mar 23 2017, 09:13 AM
JmuRiz   I think he's still working out the final specs...   Mar 23 2017, 09:14 AM
Steve   I think he's still working out the final spec...   Mar 23 2017, 09:40 AM
Valy   http://www.cruisencomfortusa.com/hot-rod-series-1 ...   Mar 23 2017, 09:16 AM
Andyrew   [url=http://www.cruisencomfortusa.com/hot-rod-ser...   Mar 23 2017, 09:41 AM
JamesM   I have heard these work alright   Mar 23 2017, 10:26 AM
michael7810   Hey Elliott: I took the easy way out and purchase...   Mar 26 2017, 07:31 PM


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