Anyone else tried a redneck AC in a 914?, hope my terminology doesn't offend anyone Options

[Kansas 914]

I know this sounds crazy,.But, could you install a 110 converter and then use the smallest AC unit possible...Or then again maybe just a ICE hat....Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) !!!,. Frank

I have been waiting for this!

Not my car.......

[Kansas 914]

This is designed for the 911, but perhaps it could be used in the 914


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9oj_EwioY

I think this is VERY promising but the product still isn't listed on their website - there is no price either.

[michael7810]

I think if you combined what you built with a mister you would be able to have a fairly effective system.
The question would be mist before ice or after.

I thought about a mister inside the cooler but figured it would blow too much water out the vent...plus living in AZ where we used to cool our home with evap coolers I've learned they work great when the humidity is low, they suck when the humidity is high, and the house would smell musty by the end of the summer. But it's cheap enough to test so I may try it anyway. What do you mean by mister before or after ice? I would pump water from the bottom of the ice chest to the top and blow it out a mist nozzle. Maybe add an evap cooler pad under the outlet to catch some of the water.
Thanks.

[mepstein]

This is designed for the 911, but perhaps it could be used in the 914


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc9oj_EwioY

I think this is VERY promising but the product still isn't listed on their website - there is no price either.

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

[Kansas 914]

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

I would not bet against that price - you are probably right.

OK - back to the ice chest solution for me.

[Andyrew]

I think if you combined what you built with a mister you would be able to have a fairly effective system.
The question would be mist before ice or after.

I thought about a mister inside the cooler but figured it would blow too much water out the vent...plus living in AZ where we used to cool our home with evap coolers I've learned they work great when the humidity is low, they suck when the humidity is high, and the house would smell musty by the end of the summer. But it's cheap enough to test so I may try it anyway. What do you mean by mister before or after ice? I would pump water from the bottom of the ice chest to the top and blow it out a mist nozzle. Maybe add an evap cooler pad under the outlet to catch some of the water.
Thanks.

I mean mist at the cooler air entrance or at the cooler air exit so the mist has more chance to influence the air its surrounding. I dont know, just a theory, I think testing for nozzle position in the system would be required for maximum efficiency.

[peteyd]

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

I would not bet against that price - you are probably right.

OK - back to the ice chest solution for me.

You guys are spot on. I saw the product at the LA Lit show. Price is $3700.

[mepstein]

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

I would not bet against that price - you are probably right.

OK - back to the ice chest solution for me.

You guys are spot on. I saw the product at the LA Lit show. Price is $3700.

Im going to need that sooner or later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Steve]

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

I would not bet against that price - you are probably right.

OK - back to the ice chest solution for me.

You guys are spot on. I saw the product at the LA Lit show. Price is $3700.

I've been following this. I also met the guy at the lit show. He said he would sell the controller and electric compressor by itself. You could add your own evaporator and condenser. He said t should be available in the June time frame.

[JmuRiz]

I think he's still working out the final specs etc.
Once it's figured out, maybe we can ask him if it can work in a 914 (as long as there's a good alternator).

There's a good thread on the Pelican Parts 911 board.

[Valy]

http://www.cruisencomfortusa.com/hot-rod-series-1

This is what you want. No hacks.

[Steve]

I think he's still working out the final specs etc.
Once it's figured out, maybe we can ask him if it can work in a 914 (as long as there's a good alternator).

There's a good thread on the Pelican Parts 911 board.

The hot rod one is also pricey.

If you can't recirculate the cold air, that wimpy compressor is not going to hold up in hot climates. So you pretty much need to put the evaporator inside the car. That hot rod one is too bulky to put inside the car.

[Andyrew]

http://www.cruisencomfortusa.com/hot-rod-series-1

This is what you want. No hacks.

Holy crap thats nutzo.

Why? That evap and blower setup is $80...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Universal-Unde...2wN&vxp=mtr

I know, I bought that unit to see if I could make it fit, it has the same controls.


I bet you that its all of $500 in parts.

[JamesM]

I have heard these work alright

[michael7810]

The Bkool unit works about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. You can carry extra ice in the front trunk (if you have one) to replenish the ice you have already used. This is actually a pretty good system and yes, pilots use it primarily for take off and landing or any time they are on the ground in a hot climate. You can turn it off when at altitude because it is usually much cooler once you are in the air. I used a home made system not unlike the Bkool system and I could get about an hour of really cool air with a much less efficient system with a much smaller ice chest. The limiting factor is how much ice you can carry. I think it has a great potential and I might try the Bkool myself this summer.

Elliot - now you're REALLY not helping me. I called Bkool today and talked to Bob (Bob is Bkool) for about 30 minutes. The only reason I did not order one right there was I was walking the dog and didn't have my wallet. Seriously he seems like a great guy to deal with. He is also a long-time Porsche owner, currently driving a Macan.
He said it will work great in a car as long as it's blowing directly on you and you don't mind stopping every 2 hours for ice. I don't mind frequent stops and in a 914 it would be hard to not have the air blowing on me. He said block ice lasts 2 hours and cubed or crushed lasts an hour and a half. I'm leaning towards the Bkool versus messing around with a homemade contraption. The high in Phx was only 69F today so AC is not a priority. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)

[mepstein]

I'm betting $3,500 - 4K. Maybe more. It's designed for the 911 crowd. They aren't going to give it away.

I would not bet against that price - you are probably right.

OK - back to the ice chest solution for me.

You guys are spot on. I saw the product at the LA Lit show. Price is $3700.

Im going to need that sooner or later (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I showed this to the owner of our shop and he told me he already has two units on order. So I'll get to see how easy it will be to adapt to my 6 conversion without the pain of digging into my own wallet.

[Kansas 914]

I showed this to the owner of our shop and he told me he already has two units on order. So I'll get to see how easy it will be to adapt to my 6 conversion without the pain of digging into my own wallet.

Nice!

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[Elliot Cannon]

The Bkool unit works about 1 1/2 to 2 hours. You can carry extra ice in the front trunk (if you have one) to replenish the ice you have already used. This is actually a pretty good system and yes, pilots use it primarily for take off and landing or any time they are on the ground in a hot climate. You can turn it off when at altitude because it is usually much cooler once you are in the air. I used a home made system not unlike the Bkool system and I could get about an hour of really cool air with a much less efficient system with a much smaller ice chest. The limiting factor is how much ice you can carry. I think it has a great potential and I might try the Bkool myself this summer.

Elliot - now you're REALLY not helping me. I called Bkool today and talked to Bob (Bob is Bkool) for about 30 minutes. The only reason I did not order one right there was I was walking the dog and didn't have my wallet. Seriously he seems like a great guy to deal with. He is also a long-time Porsche owner, currently driving a Macan.
He said it will work great in a car as long as it's blowing directly on you and you don't mind stopping every 2 hours for ice. I don't mind frequent stops and in a 914 it would be hard to not have the air blowing on me. He said block ice lasts 2 hours and cubed or crushed lasts an hour and a half. I'm leaning towards the Bkool versus messing around with a homemade contraption. The high in Phx was only 69F today so AC is not a priority. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)

I usually have to stop every two hours to pee anyway, so it might as well be an ice stop as well. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[michael7810]

Hey Elliott: I took the easy way out and purchased a B-Kool. I've been busy with out of town company and have not had time to do a proper check-out. I fired it up today in the garage with about 5 lbs of ice and 32 oz of warm water (literature recommends 16-20 oz of water but that was not enough to prime the system so I added another bottle of water). It fits nicely in front of the 914 passenger seat with a little storage area in front of it. It is much quieter than my RNAC and definitely won't be heard driving down the road. The fan seems more than enough for a small car. The coolest air it produced was 52F but remember I only had a small block of ice (4x4x6"). OAT was about 82F. I checked it after about 20 minutes and the ice was almost all melted and the water temp was 42F. I'll do a proper checkout before departing for Rt 66 on 20 April. More to follow...