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SKL1
post Mar 26 2017, 03:41 PM
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Noticed recently the starter acting up on my '73. I have the stronger starter (can't remember where I got it as it's been a few years, but the same one on my '71 I got from Alan Johnson Racing way back when) and every so often I just get the "click" with no start- sometimes when cold, ocassionally when warm.
In the old days (and I mean really old days, back in the '70's) when that happened you'd hit the solenoid with a hammer and that would take care of it.

This starter is probably 5-6 years old, but used pretty sparingly... now I'm a little nervous to take it somewhere if I'm not on a hill!

Eventually it will start but seems pretty unpredictable. Any ideas???
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post Mar 27 2017, 03:37 PM
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I think we need to stop calling this a "hot start relay kit". It's not a "hot start" problem, it's a "shitty electrical design" problem that just so happens to rear its ugly head more often when the car is hot because the starter solenoid is pulling more amps.

I don't know if this is the original poster's problem. No one can say that unless more hands-on troubleshooting is done. But we should all be installing this upgrade, simply because it's a better design.

So I hereby declare this product to now be called "the shitty electrical design" kit, which can be solved for $26 shipped from Amazon (The Bird has it for <$30, free shipping if in a $79 or more order).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B001COAX78/

Edit: Additional top tip. Install the fuseholder where you can reach it without soiling a nice pair of work khakis and golf shirt. Yes, I've popped the 15A fuse on mine, a couple of times (tells you how much current that thing draws). And yup, I learned after the first one and re-positioned it into the engine compartment.
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SKL1   Intermittent starter issues...   Mar 26 2017, 03:41 PM
Rand   Clean the battery and ground strap connections. It...   Mar 26 2017, 03:45 PM
Tom_T   :agree: And also check the transaxle to undersid...   Mar 26 2017, 07:51 PM
Mark Henry   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...25905...   Mar 26 2017, 10:36 PM
porschetub   Starter relay is partly a bandage for a broken leg...   Mar 26 2017, 11:43 PM
Mark Henry   Starter relay is partly a bandage for a broken le...   Mar 27 2017, 06:47 AM
worn   Starter relay is partly a bandage for a broken le...   Apr 11 2017, 12:45 PM
Jeffs9146   Starter relay is partly a bandage for a broken l...   Apr 13 2017, 11:04 AM
GregAmy   The ford relay is a bypass to the starter relay,...   Apr 13 2017, 11:27 AM
porschetub   Double post....   Mar 27 2017, 12:21 AM
GregAmy   Agree with Mark. There's just no valid reason...   Mar 27 2017, 06:53 AM
76-914   Got to :agree: w/ Mark & Greg. :beer2:   Mar 27 2017, 02:55 PM
GregAmy   I think we need to stop calling this a "hot s...   Mar 27 2017, 03:37 PM
HalfMoon   I think we need to stop calling this a "hot ...   Apr 11 2017, 08:21 AM
Mark Henry   [quote name='GregAmy' post='2468900' date='Mar 27...   Apr 11 2017, 08:35 AM
HalfMoon   [quote name='HalfMoon' post='2474417' date='Apr 1...   Apr 11 2017, 12:12 PM
SKL1   All my wiring to starter is clean or essentially n...   Mar 27 2017, 10:22 PM
GregAmy   LAME! Definitely complain to Amazon, as WR1 is...   Apr 11 2017, 08:31 AM
GregAmy   The Ford relay is prob a better solution but the B...   Apr 13 2017, 07:09 AM
76-914   FWIW and IIRC, the Ford solenoid requires ~3.9v to...   Apr 13 2017, 08:11 AM
Mark Henry   FWIW and IIRC, the Ford solenoid requires ~3.9v t...   Apr 13 2017, 08:33 AM
SKL1   I ordered the "kit" from Pelican and all...   Apr 13 2017, 11:21 AM
SKL1   Well, ordered the "kit" from both Amazon...   Apr 15 2017, 06:42 PM
Jeffs9146   Well, ordered the "kit" from both Amazo...   Apr 15 2017, 08:15 PM
Mark Henry   Ummm....you do realize that the battery post and t...   Apr 15 2017, 09:52 PM
HalfMoon   Ummm....you do realize that the battery post and ...   Apr 16 2017, 08:06 AM
euro911   :agree: with the Ford type relay. I recently con...   Apr 15 2017, 11:37 PM
Mark Henry   Do it my way, carefully bend the mount bracket, ca...   Apr 16 2017, 09:27 AM
KELTY360   Do it my way, carefully bend the mount bracket, c...   Apr 16 2017, 01:13 PM
HalfMoon   Do it my way, carefully bend the mount bracket, c...   Apr 16 2017, 08:30 PM
euro911   RE: Intermittent starter issues...   Apr 16 2017, 01:43 PM
Jeffs9146   I agree with this method but there is no need ...   Apr 16 2017, 11:26 PM
Mark Henry   Sorry I don't agree. That is how it's...   Apr 17 2017, 07:06 AM
SKL1   Well, my Ford solenoid is coming from Amazon so I...   Apr 16 2017, 10:27 PM
SKL1   OK, I know we're beating a dead horse here, bu...   Apr 20 2017, 10:36 PM
euro911   The heavy wire needs to be a large gauge wire to c...   Apr 21 2017, 12:29 AM
Mark Henry   The heavy wire needs to be a large gauge wire to ...   Apr 21 2017, 05:15 PM
euro911   I think this diagram doesn't leave any unanswe...   Apr 21 2017, 06:05 PM
Hans Jan   The ignition switch on my car is dying as well. I...   Apr 21 2017, 07:01 PM
euro911   They're all the same   Apr 21 2017, 08:14 PM
SKL1   OK, I'm wiring this thing up and don't wan...   Apr 22 2017, 06:12 PM
Spoke   OK, I'm wiring this thing up and don't wa...   Apr 22 2017, 10:22 PM
SKL1   Spoke- all the different schematics do get confus...   Apr 22 2017, 11:25 PM
euro911   The yellow wire comes from the ignition switch and...   Apr 23 2017, 02:06 AM
Mark Henry   Ok...I have a solenoid in my bus and my /6 and tra...   Apr 23 2017, 06:25 AM
Spoke   Here's the entire starter circuit schematic wi...   Apr 23 2017, 07:46 PM
Mark Henry   Enough of the armchair experts....my way of instal...   Apr 24 2017, 06:56 AM
euro911   The starting issue stems from the ignition switch ...   Apr 24 2017, 07:24 PM


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