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911 steering rack question |
Nickm1 |
May 6 2005, 10:04 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 76 Joined: 22-April 05 From: Madison Heights, MI Member No.: 3,966 |
When I bought this car I got a 911 rack with it but its not put on the car. what are the advantages of switching and is it very hard/worth the effort. |
davep |
May 6 2005, 10:07 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
No advantage to a 911 rack. A bit tricky to replace anyway.
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SirAndy |
May 6 2005, 10:39 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,609 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/agree.gif) no need for the 911 rack ... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) Andy |
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sechszylinder |
May 7 2005, 01:37 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None |
Hi Nick,
the steering racks are not interchangable, but the they can be modified to fit into a 914. I've modfied a 911 steering rack from a 1987 911 carrera. They provide stronger ball bearings and of course the 911 ignition switch (nice for conversion cars) . let me know if you like to see a pic of the modified rack ... luftgekühlte Grüße from Berlin benno |
SirAndy |
May 7 2005, 10:57 AM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,609 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
what a question! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
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JFJ914 |
May 7 2005, 04:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 813 Joined: 13-June 03 From: Alpharetta, GA Member No.: 814 Region Association: South East States |
They are the same rack. The input shafts are of different lengths and the couplings have a different hardness. Since they both bolt on you can swap them. But as others have said, why bother? The net result is no change. |
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bondo |
May 7 2005, 04:28 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Related hijack:
I have two racks, 1 914 and one 911. How do I tell which is in better condition? The 911 one has turbo tie rods, but those can be moved over. |
RAR |
May 7 2005, 07:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Washington state Member No.: 1,598 |
Check for smoothness, dried grease, and I believe the bushings the rack slides on wear, so take a look at that too.
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bondo |
May 7 2005, 07:42 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
I just noticed that on one of them the shaft the steering wheel connects to can wiggle. The other doesn't wiggle at all. They both seem to have the same abount of play and are equally smooth. The shaft wiggle has to be a bad thing, right?
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RAR |
May 7 2005, 08:41 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Washington state Member No.: 1,598 |
I suppose it depends on what's wiggling and why. AA in their 700 fact book used to suggest using the 914 rubber pie assembly over the 911 one. Don't know what others have done along these lines. I'd use the 911 rack since it's out of the car, all other things being equal. Is the pie where the wiggle is?
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bondo |
May 7 2005, 08:49 PM
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Practicing my perpendicular parking Group: Members Posts: 4,277 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Los Osos, CA Member No.: 587 Region Association: Central California |
Pie? Never heard it called that before. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) They're both out of the car. The 911 one has a noticable wiggle, and it's not in the rubber. It must be in the part the rubber attaches to. It has a noticable clicky sound to it when you wiggle it, like something has too much clearance. If it matters, the 914 one is from 73, the 911 one is something aroind 75-76. |
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sechszylinder |
May 8 2005, 02:09 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 9-April 03 From: /earth/europe/germany/berlin Member No.: 545 Region Association: None |
oops , my mistake ... I've mixed up steering rack and steering shaft , (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif) but anyway, concerning the steering shaft, you can modify a 911 steering shaft to fit into a 914 by welding the mounting plate of 914 steering shaft to the 911 steering shaft ... luftgekühlte Grüße from Berlin Benno Attached image(s) |
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RAR |
May 8 2005, 06:39 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Washington state Member No.: 1,598 |
I checked all my racks SC, '74S, and 914, and none had any clicking. The two bolt tab can be loose, but it didn't click. There are rebuild instructions in the 914 factory manual, but they are a little vague on some details. In some photos the rubber connector looks like a small pie cut in quarters. I'm probably a cult of one in the use of this term. I rebuilt the '74 rack (bearings) but have never fine tuned it and didn't do the bushings the rack rides on. I may go back in eventually. I'd like to hear from some others who have rebuilt their racks.
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RAR |
May 8 2005, 06:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 189 Joined: 24-January 04 From: Washington state Member No.: 1,598 |
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