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How can I preserve my engine? |
McLovin |
Apr 6 2017, 01:20 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
I used to have a 1.8 liter engine in a bus. I romped on it once in the freeway, it sucked a valve, and totaled the engine.
Now I have a 1.8 liter 914 that seems to run good. I've been looking at the cost associated with a rebuild....in the event I ever needed one...and I've decided that taking good care of my engine is a wise course. So what do you recommend? Short of tearing the engine down, I'll make sure that I have good seals in the engine compartment and maybe make sure my valves are always set correctly. I might even run a slightly rich mixture at my carb (yes, I have a carb). Anything else I can do that I'm not thinking of? |
brant |
Apr 6 2017, 01:41 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 11,625 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Colorado Member No.: 47 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
monitor your temps
oil and heads. often running the head temps too high will cause a valve seat failure if your monitoring shows these temps to be too high.... then take steps to address that. |
6freak |
Apr 6 2017, 02:44 PM
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MR.C Group: Members Posts: 4,740 Joined: 19-March 08 From: Tacoma WA Member No.: 8,829 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I used to have a 1.8 liter engine in a bus. I romped on it once in the freeway, it sucked a valve, and totaled the engine. Now I have a 1.8 liter 914 that seems to run good. I've been looking at the cost associated with a rebuild....in the event I ever needed one...and I've decided that taking good care of my engine is a wise course. So what do you recommend? Short of tearing the engine down, I'll make sure that I have good seals in the engine compartment and maybe make sure my valves are always set correctly. I might even run a slightly rich mixture at my carb (yes, I have a carb). Anything else I can do that I'm not thinking of? so your asking how not to blow it up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) I cant help you |
McLovin |
Apr 6 2017, 07:23 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
monitor your temps oil and heads. often running the head temps too high will cause a valve seat failure if your monitoring shows these temps to be too high.... then take steps to address that. Excellent suggestion...thanks. Do you have a recommendation on how to do that? Like a brand or kit for guages? How hot is too hot? (I realize that's subjective, but a guess is very helpful) |
cgnj |
Apr 6 2017, 08:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 623 Joined: 6-March 03 From: Medford, NJ Member No.: 403 Region Association: None |
Mystery motor, Leakdown. Single carb?
Pm jim kelly about these.frd34s Good fit for stock 1.8, and much better than that pinto carb. Change oil religiously. Sooner or later it will have to be rebuilt. |
Rand |
Apr 6 2017, 09:01 PM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
If you can't smell his stink yet... You haven't been paying attention. Don't feed him.
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McLovin |
Apr 6 2017, 10:47 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
If you can't smell his stink yet... You haven't been paying attention. Don't feed him. What does that mean? You saying I'm a troll or something??? I just bought a '75 with a 1.8 and it runs OK but right now it leaks like a sieve because the pushrod tube seals are bad...It's original to the car so I think it has 88,000 miles on it per the odometer. I'd like it to last a long time (while I slowly build a back-up engine for the day it dies). I had a '74 bus, which also had a 1.8 liter engine and during a long trip, my engine died when my valves mysteriously closed. I adjusted them out, not realizing then that they closed because the valves stretched. On the next long trip I took in that bus, it destroyed the engine when I brought it up to 75 mph on the interstate and it sucked a valve. I would like that not to happen again anytime soon with my new toy. Type IV engines are bullet proof on the bottom end but the heads are problematic. Was hoping to hear from people who have stretched the mileage of their engines. Not name callers. Engine: Car: (note the puddle of oil underneath it) My old Bus |
injunmort |
Apr 7 2017, 04:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
75 mph in that bus? i think not
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jd74914 |
Apr 7 2017, 06:19 AM
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Its alive Group: Members Posts: 4,780 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States |
Pm jim kelly about these.frd34s Good fit for stock 1.8, and much better than that pinto carb. Change oil religiously. Sooner or later it will have to be rebuilt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Also go and buy engine tin seals (they might be on sale right now at 914rubber); they'll help motor temperatures. I beat the crap out of a 1.8L motor for years-literally tried to kill it-and it just kept coming back so I don't think you have much to worry about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
bandjoey |
Apr 7 2017, 06:38 AM
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bandjoey Group: Members Posts: 4,926 Joined: 26-September 07 From: Bedford Tx Member No.: 8,156 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Stop the leaks, keeps the revs high, have someone help you properly adjust the valves.
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McLovin |
Apr 7 2017, 06:44 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
75 mph in that bus? i think not Sure they can. The Type IV engine made the bus capable of those speeds. My front end was tight on that bus too...handled good on the highway. Look here: http://auto.howstuffworks.com/volkswagen-bus6.htm |
McLovin |
Apr 7 2017, 06:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
Pm jim kelly about these.frd34s Good fit for stock 1.8, and much better than that pinto carb. Change oil religiously. Sooner or later it will have to be rebuilt. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) Also go and buy engine tin seals (they might be on sale right now at 914rubber); they'll help motor temperatures. I beat the crap out of a 1.8L motor for years-literally tried to kill it-and it just kept coming back so I don't think you have much to worry about. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Already ordered them. Thanks. They are $40 with a promo code right now from 914 rubber. I think they cost more than $100 for my old bus (must be a different shape.) Believe it or not, bus guys sometimes use swimming pool noodles slit lengthwise half-way through. They do work. Good to know that you can beat them and they keep coming back. Like I say, I'm gun shy with the Type IV engines and before I sold my bus, I was considering replacing it with a Type I engine instead. So the idea of the Type IV in my 914 made me hesitate, but I'm thinking that the car is so light the strain on the engine must be way less so the longevity must be pretty good. I wonder how many miles you can get on them??? |
McLovin |
Apr 7 2017, 06:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
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era vulgaris |
Apr 7 2017, 07:06 AM
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J is for Genius Group: Members Posts: 982 Joined: 10-November 13 From: Raleigh, NC Member No.: 16,629 Region Association: South East States |
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injunmort |
Apr 7 2017, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
nah, 68bhp, the aerodynamics of a barn door and the added weight of a kombi. that bus never saw 75 mph. the specs you post are from vw which are notoriously generous. it list top speed as 75mph. if you were running at 9000rpm, perhaps, but you would have sucked up more than a valve. so i call bullshit.
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bretth |
Apr 7 2017, 07:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 899 Joined: 23-June 15 From: Central TX Member No.: 18,882 Region Association: Southwest Region |
My 68 bus with stock single port motor topped out around 64 mph. I could see how a 1.8 may get another 10 mph over mine.
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sdoolin |
Apr 7 2017, 08:02 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 359 Joined: 1-May 14 From: LouKY Member No.: 17,299 Region Association: None |
I had a 76 bus for many, many years with a fresh 2.0 engine (rebuilt several times). It'd go 75mph easy. So long as I was going steeply downhill. With a tailwind...
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McLovin |
Apr 7 2017, 09:07 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
nah, 68bhp, the aerodynamics of a barn door and the added weight of a kombi. that bus never saw 75 mph. the specs you post are from vw which are notoriously generous. it list top speed as 75mph. if you were running at 9000rpm, perhaps, but you would have sucked up more than a valve. so i call bullshit. A thread on stock bus speeds. Note that the early buses had Type I (beetle style) engines so those don't apply. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic...;highlight=fast Also buses run at low RPM, so you can floor them. Aerodynamics (mostly) prevents it from red lining in 4th gear. In the old days, people used to wedge a stick between the seat and the pedal as a cruise control on long trips. I don't advise that though. |
McLovin |
Apr 7 2017, 09:17 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 102 Joined: 31-August 16 From: Tallahassee, FL Member No.: 20,360 Region Association: South East States |
I'll be reading up on ideal operating RPM. 3,000-4,000rpm for cruising. Shift points should be around 4500. Cruising for extended lengths below 3,000rpm will eventually overheat your heads. Excellent! Thanks. This car is so different than the stuff I've driven. Never had a tach on a german car either, so this will be interesting. |
injunmort |
Apr 7 2017, 10:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,024 Joined: 12-April 10 From: sugarloaf ny Member No.: 11,604 Region Association: North East States |
do you guys fish, too? i bet you got some great stories about that, too. 1977 2.0l with ljet, maybe, not a 1974 1.8l carb.
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