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> Sold the car, shipped it, title is missing a digit on vin, needing tips for vin verification out of state
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post Apr 20 2017, 09:12 AM
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Hi everyone. Long time no post. I'm needing help brainstorming a dilema I'm in. I sold and delivered my 914 to a nice gentleman in NJ. When he went to his DMV to move the title over to his name, they refused because the Arkansas title is missing a digit on the VIN#. Neither myself or my DMV caught it when I bought the car four years ago which means the original vin verification was incorrect to begin with. Long story short, they wont release a corrected Arkansas title to me without local PD giving me a Vin Verification but the PD refuse to do it without the car being present. Shipping the car back here for a 3-minute verification is not an option. Should I offer to fly a local police officer to NJ so he can perform the VIN verification in the airport parking lot then bring it back to me? It's such a mess and nobody seems willing to make an exception. I can tell everyone is "just doing their job" and following their scripts. HELP PLEASE!
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post Apr 20 2017, 01:07 PM
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Not to be too antagonistic, but my first question would be why does the new owner need a title (at this second)? My 81 Audi has been legally on the road for decades without one in my name. I still have the one from the fellow I bought it from and I hope all the digits are correct! Pretty much same for each of the other old cars I own. I may only have one title in my name and all are legally registered and insured. In both Maine and NH cars this old transfer with a bill of sale and titles can be applied for if warranted in the new owners name with just that piece of paper.



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Hi everyone. Long time no post. I'm needing help brainstorming a dilema I'm in. I sold and delivered my 914 to a nice gentleman in NJ. When he went to his DMV to move the title over to his name, they refused because the Arkansas title is missing a digit on the VIN#. Neither myself or my DMV caught it when I bought the car four years ago which means the original vin verification was incorrect to begin with. Long story short, they wont release a corrected Arkansas title to me without local PD giving me a Vin Verification but the PD refuse to do it without the car being present. Shipping the car back here for a 3-minute verification is not an option. Should I offer to fly a local police officer to NJ so he can perform the VIN verification in the airport parking lot then bring it back to me? It's such a mess and nobody seems willing to make an exception. I can tell everyone is "just doing their job" and following their scripts. HELP PLEASE!

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post Apr 20 2017, 02:20 PM
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Not to be too antagonistic, but my first question would be why does the new owner need a title (at this second)? My 81 Audi has been legally on the road for decades without one in my name. I still have the one from the fellow I bought it from and I hope all the digits are correct! Pretty much same for each of the other old cars I own. I may only have one title in my name and all are legally registered and insured. In both Maine and NH cars this old transfer with a bill of sale and titles can be applied for if warranted in the new owners name with just that piece of paper.



I don't know what state you're in, but here in NC you can't register a previously owned car (no matter how old of a car) without a valid title or registration from the previous owner. Once you register it in your name, the DMV issues you a new title in your name within 30 days. All cars, no matter how old, receive titles. If there are any issues, mistakes, or if the NC DMV plain doesn't like the paperwork you give them from the previous owner, then you're out of luck and can't register the car.
Now if you're registering a car that you're importing into NC from another state, that's a whole other bag of worms. You have to take the car to the DMV license and theft bureau, and they photograph the car for their records and then check the VIN and engine numbers against databases of stolen VINs and engine #s, and also to make sure that the VIN and engine number are correct for the year and make of the car. If they have any reason to doubt the legitimacy of the car, they can deny your registration.
Prob the same for the new owner in question.
Sounds like you have it EZ-PZ in your state.
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Well this seems onerous, but you said title OR registration. I'm assuming in this case he has at least one, probably more, previous valid reggies. Then the background check would show no theft or issues and he is good to go.


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Not to be too antagonistic, but my first question would be why does the new owner need a title (at this second)? My 81 Audi has been legally on the road for decades without one in my name. I still have the one from the fellow I bought it from and I hope all the digits are correct! Pretty much same for each of the other old cars I own. I may only have one title in my name and all are legally registered and insured. In both Maine and NH cars this old transfer with a bill of sale and titles can be applied for if warranted in the new owners name with just that piece of paper.



I don't know what state you're in, but here in NC you can't register a previously owned car (no matter how old of a car) without a valid title or registration from the previous owner. Once you register it in your name, the DMV issues you a new title in your name within 30 days. All cars, no matter how old, receive titles. If there are any issues, mistakes, or if the NC DMV plain doesn't like the paperwork you give them from the previous owner, then you're out of luck and can't register the car.
Now if you're registering a car that you're importing into NC from another state, that's a whole other bag of worms. You have to take the car to the DMV license and theft bureau, and they photograph the car for their records and then check the VIN and engine numbers against databases of stolen VINs and engine #s, and also to make sure that the VIN and engine number are correct for the year and make of the car. If they have any reason to doubt the legitimacy of the car, they can deny your registration.
Prob the same for the new owner in question.
Sounds like you have it EZ-PZ in your state.

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RazorbackFan78   Sold the car, shipped it, title is missing a digit on vin   Apr 20 2017, 09:12 AM
db9146   Is there no way to have the VIN verified in NJ? W...   Apr 20 2017, 09:19 AM
jd74914   I would think the NJ state PD should be able to ve...   Apr 20 2017, 09:23 AM
RazorbackFan78   We may try the out-of-state vin verification appro...   Apr 20 2017, 09:58 AM
Coloradocurt   We may try the out-of-state vin verification appr...   Apr 21 2017, 05:11 AM
RazorbackFan78   I've also reached out to the original seller (...   Apr 20 2017, 10:00 AM
Jonathan Livesay   I bought a '74 about 14 years ago that had an ...   Apr 20 2017, 10:30 AM
Jeffs9146   This happened to me but it was in California. I ha...   Apr 20 2017, 11:02 AM
KELTY360   These discrepancies happen so often; it is imperat...   Apr 20 2017, 11:05 AM
mepstein   We had something similar happen at the shop and on...   Apr 20 2017, 01:04 PM
87m491   Not to be too antagonistic, but my first question ...   Apr 20 2017, 01:07 PM
era vulgaris   Not to be too antagonistic, but my first question...   Apr 20 2017, 02:20 PM
87m491   Well this seems onerous, but you said title OR reg...   Apr 21 2017, 04:46 AM
Vacca Rabite   Every state is different, but PA only needs a sign...   Apr 20 2017, 01:12 PM
mepstein   Every state is different, but PA only needs a sig...   Apr 20 2017, 02:48 PM
bretth   What about a pencil rubbing of the tag in the fron...   Apr 21 2017, 05:32 AM
LowBridge   I would see if you have any friends in AR who know...   Apr 21 2017, 06:04 AM
dlee6204   Most states also have a way to obtain a title for ...   Apr 21 2017, 07:14 AM
Shadowfax   What about a notarized affidavit showing the corre...   Apr 21 2017, 07:38 AM
boxstr   Ask the DMV you are dealing with if they will exce...   Apr 21 2017, 10:39 PM


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