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> Win Doze Experts, Could use some help here.....
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post May 9 2005, 10:32 PM
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post May 9 2005, 10:33 PM
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Since you have a drive caddy... XCOPY source destination /E /H /O

Then swap drives and boot. Shouldn't this work? At least something like that worked for me a year or two ago when I changed drives in my desktop.
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post May 9 2005, 10:39 PM
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Geoff, lemme know if you need some help. If you can drop your laptop downtown, I can add it to the stack I have to rebuild!
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post May 23 2005, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (Gint @ May 9 2005, 11:38 PM)
...it will take a little work on your part.
http://www.sysresccd.org/

i can still find my way around in *nix even though i've been away for a long time, but even though i downloaded that stuff, made the cd, and read all the documentation, i was still never able to get anywhere with that stuff. for one thing, NONE of my USB devices worked, so i had to go get a wired keyboard even to get past the boot sequence, then the USB port where i'd plugged the drive in question didn't seem to be there.

i'm sure there are magick incantations to turn all that stuff on but i was just interested in results (this time) not a trip into Operating Systems 101...

so i went back to the CompUSA to buy Ghost (if i had to...) and found "Acronis True Image" for less with the notation that a "recent" PC Mag review preferred it to Ghost. got off to an inauspicious start, with undocumented exceptions and internal failures. downloaded the product updates, tried a less ambitious set of command options and -- it worked just fine. copied off an image, swapped drives, restored an image, plugged the new imaged drive into the HP, hit the switch and watched it boot. success.

so - i can qualifiedly recommend "Acronis True Image" for doing this kind of thing for people (such as myself) who really prefer to avoid any Symantec stuff. and it was cheaper. CompUSA was really pushing the Ghost/PartitionMagic bundle, but by looking around i was able to find it separate -- didn't need it tho.

i bought both the CompUSA brand USB 2.0 aluminum enclosure and the ribbon-cable adapter. i tried the USB first because i preferred to avoid opening the case; it worked fine. now that i have a backup image, i may try using the 80G "flaky" drive as a temp volume in the Compaq "game" machine - i think it may just have got heat-sensitive in the HP - there's plenty of ventilation in the CPQ case, and the drive itself (a Toshiba) functioned just fine in "external" mode during the imaging process.
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post May 23 2005, 08:27 PM
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Hmmm. I just did this on a work PC Friday. You install the larger drive into the pc, format it, installed a temporary basic version of Windows on new drive(probably didn't need to do that but works good for other stuff), boot up to the new temp OS, run the built in XCOPY.exe program to transfer everything from old drive to new drive.

Now comes the hard part...I guess, add a line in the boot.ini file on the new drive so you can boot into both the temp OS you just created and the newly copied old OS, this is for just in case. Then change the mounted device settings of the drives in the registry so your new drive becomes C: and your old drive becomes something else.

It's fairly quick and free.
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post May 23 2005, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE (RustyWa @ May 23 2005, 10:27 PM)
...run the built in XCOPY.exe program to transfer everything from old drive to new drive.

this assumes that you have a computer - unlike most notebooks - where you can install two drives at once...

and i've done my share of time in REGEDIT but most nontrivial installations of XP have thousands of registry entries and it's no fun trying to find and fix all the drive references - although i'll acknowledge it's technically possible...
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post May 23 2005, 08:40 PM
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this assumes that you have a computer - unlike most notebooks - where you can install two drives at once...

I'll give you that one

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and i've done my share of time in REGEDIT but most nontrivial installations of XP have thousands of registry entries and it's no fun trying to find and fix all the drive references - although i'll acknowledge it's technically possible...

If you keep the drives the same, C: stays C:, you only have to change it in one place not thousands. HLKM\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\DosDevices\

But like you said, if you only have one drive slot, can't do it the way I described.
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post May 23 2005, 09:52 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif) Randy caked walked me thru the Favorites transfer so now I have all my 914 sites back on the Dell laptop. I have been transfering some file via the lan as the old hard drive is in a drive caddy and running off the desktop.
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post May 23 2005, 11:08 PM
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Woohoo. Favorites in the house. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smilie_pokal.gif)
Now about that fresh air blower... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) [Hijack city.]... Can't wiggle that thing outta there for nothin. Maybe I'll break down and remove the gas tank after all.
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post May 24 2005, 06:48 AM
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Y'all do things the hard way.

If you are just replacing the hard drive, this is the easiest way.

Run NTBACKUP, and backup the contents of the hard drive and the system state to disk.

Burn the backup file to a CD.

Install the new hard drive.

Load a basic install of Windows XP onto the system. Don't load ANY extras.

After it's up and running, run NTBACKUP and do a restore of the hard drive and the system state.

Reboot.

You are now up and running with your system identical to the way it was before the hard drive upgrade.
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post May 24 2005, 07:44 AM
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Ya but....there was some goofy problem on the old disc so we decided not to do a copy to the new HD as that would start me down the problems path again.
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post May 24 2005, 12:19 PM
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Running NTBACKUP is not copying the disk. It is the same procedure that is used to backup servers to tape. You would just be writing it to a file on a CD instead.

Glad you got it running
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