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GaroldShaffer
post May 9 2017, 08:48 AM
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So I have an early seat belt holster in the classifieds. Question came up if they were only on the drivers side of the early cars or both sides. I believe it was just the driver side, but I have seen a early car with it on both sides, but no sure if the owner did that or it came that way.

Anyone know for sure?
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post May 9 2017, 06:51 PM
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I tried to find a pic of my buddy's OO 71 /4, but none of the pix show the right spot.

PS - The link Racer Chris gave above does have excellent pix of it in place at that post, FYI.

Based on a reliable source from the old days, who is far smarter than am I on these 914 details:

"The seat belt tongue holster was installed on all 914 and 914-6 models from model year 1970 to model year 1972 until 12/31/71. One per car on the driver's side with four 2.9x9.5 lens head screws to secure Factory part number is 91480314110 If you do not have one on your drivers side, your car is not correct!"

If your screws are pulling out, then they're probably either the wrong lenght screws &/or the carpet isn't original, since some after market carpets are a slightly deeper pile/backer material.

My supposition was always since back in the 70's, that they put this "Holster" in to get it away from jamming the folding e-brake, wich became unnecessary when the retractable belts came in.

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post May 9 2017, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 9 2017, 05:51 PM) *
"The seat belt tongue holster was installed on all 914 and 914-6 models from model year 1970 to model year 1972 until 12/31/71. One per car on the driver's side with four 2.9x9.5 lens head screws to secure Factory part number is 91480314110 If you do not have one on your drivers side, your car is not correct!"

And how exactly could that be true?
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A large portion of those early cars do not have the mounting holes for said holster and on the ones that do have them, the holes look hand-drilled ...
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 9 2017, 06:11 PM) *

QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 9 2017, 05:51 PM) *
"The seat belt tongue holster was installed on all 914 and 914-6 models from model year 1970 to model year 1972 until 12/31/71. One per car on the driver's side with four 2.9x9.5 lens head screws to secure Factory part number is 91480314110 If you do not have one on your drivers side, your car is not correct!"

And how exactly could that be true?
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A large portion of those early cars do not have the mounting holes for said holster and on the ones that do have them, the holes look hand-drilled ...
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As I said Andy - confirmed with an old school 914 originality expert. The screw holes could be painted over or filled in in the 45+/- years since.

i.e.: Someone who was around back then, like myself, or George Rud, or my buddy with the bahia 71 - but more even more expert on originality than I & we are!

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QUOTE(Tom_T @ May 9 2017, 09:16 PM) *
As I said Andy - confirmed with an old school 914 originality expert. The screw holes could be painted over or filled in in the 45+/- years since.

Believe the expert while ignoring irrefutable evidence. That's FAITH. Andy's point remains --- any believable explanation MUST include a reason for all the cars that did not have holes drilled in the long.

Here's a sting of logic for you (sorry, I'm all out of pocket experts):

- If these holsters were factory installed, then the designers of the 914 planned to use them.
- If these holsters were included as a part of the seat belt assembly used as the cars were built and must have been spec'd out when the cars were designed as part of the seat belt assembly.
- If Porsche planned to use these parts all along, why didn't the long stampings include mounting holes? They added holes for vin tags and body plaques in the stampings. Adding holes for the holster would have been included in the long stamping.
- Since there are cars that exist without holes in the longs, the holes were obviously not drilled/cut as part of the long. Therefore 914 designers didn't plan on using them.

Look, it's pretty well accepted that the antenna was a dealer installed option. There's a spec sheet for where to drill the hole. Yet nearly every 914 has an antenna... JUST LIKE THE SEAT BELT HOLSTER.
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Garold Shaffer   Early seatbelt holster question   May 9 2017, 08:48 AM
Peashooter   Maybe not for sure, but my original 1970 914-6 has...   May 9 2017, 08:56 AM
McMark   They're aftermarket or dealer installed. Put ...   May 9 2017, 08:58 AM
mepstein   They're aftermarket or dealer installed. Put...   May 9 2017, 10:32 AM
gms   They're aftermarket or dealer installed. Put...   May 9 2017, 02:22 PM
SirAndy   Every early car I have seen has had them on the d...   May 9 2017, 02:46 PM
McMark   Am I SURE? No. SirAndy's six doesn't hav...   May 9 2017, 10:53 AM
mepstein   Am I SURE? No. SirAndy's six doesn't ha...   May 9 2017, 11:12 AM
Racer Chris   This has been discussed here before: old seatbelt...   May 9 2017, 01:20 PM
McMark   Good searching Chris. That was the thread I was t...   May 9 2017, 01:26 PM
SirAndy   I suspect that if they were truly aftermarket part...   May 9 2017, 01:35 PM
Racer Chris   Ed (who worked at auto dealerships since the ...   May 9 2017, 02:05 PM
Mike Fitton   It was a Porsche part that came with the non-retra...   May 9 2017, 02:10 PM
gms   I believe the part number is 914.803.141.10 I thin...   May 9 2017, 02:32 PM
SirAndy   I believe the part number is 914.803.141.10 I thi...   May 11 2017, 07:32 PM
Cairo94507   All 3 of my Sixes, 2 70's and the '71 had ...   May 9 2017, 03:06 PM
rgalla9146   The idea that they were to prevent interference wi...   May 9 2017, 04:08 PM
SirAndy   I think they were an early car thing, pre-re...   May 9 2017, 05:14 PM
johnhora   my 70' original 914-6 has one on the driver si...   May 9 2017, 05:44 PM
Tom_T   I tried to find a pic of my buddy's OO 71 /4, ...   May 9 2017, 06:51 PM
SirAndy   "The seat belt tongue holster was installed o...   May 9 2017, 07:11 PM
Tom_T   "The seat belt tongue holster was installed ...   May 9 2017, 07:16 PM
SirAndy   As I said Andy - [i]confirmed with an old school [...   May 9 2017, 07:45 PM
Tom_T   poo-poo? Really? How old are we today? 12? FYI ...   May 13 2017, 09:44 AM
McMark   As I said Andy - [i]confirmed with an old school [...   May 10 2017, 06:33 AM
gms   - If Porsche planned to use these parts all along...   May 10 2017, 08:33 AM
pete000   When I had my interior completely out of my early ...   May 9 2017, 10:29 PM
PancakePorsche   Just one more opinion here. I have two '70 car...   May 10 2017, 01:04 AM
euro911   It's been a while since I looked in the '7...   May 10 2017, 01:55 AM
gcrotvik   Here's a though. The factory didn't instal...   May 10 2017, 07:39 AM
gms   Here is a thought lets put a new top page and have...   May 10 2017, 08:25 AM
Peashooter   See what you started Garold? :D :poke:   May 10 2017, 08:40 AM
Garold Shaffer   See what you started Garold? :D :poke: :confu...   May 13 2017, 11:11 AM
gms   914/4 with holster 4702907240 4712903834 471290601...   May 10 2017, 08:58 AM
Jasfsmith   Add to the list, my 914-6 914.013.1113 has a holst...   May 10 2017, 11:49 AM
fixer34   914/4 with holster 4702907240 4712903834 47129060...   May 11 2017, 07:41 PM
mepstein   I think Garold's holster is now worth double. ...   May 10 2017, 09:16 AM
mskala   I'm sure I stated in the old thread that my ca...   May 10 2017, 09:22 AM
Mike Fitton   He is a picture of the location of the 4 holes on ...   May 10 2017, 09:25 AM
SirAndy   NO holes for holster: 914.043.0374 470.29.12181 ...   May 10 2017, 10:18 AM
altitude411   Just checked my six 9140432481... no holes   May 10 2017, 10:26 AM
McMark   Andys six   May 10 2017, 10:27 AM
Tom_T   Well Mark, if that is SirAndy's -6 supposedly ...   May 10 2017, 11:26 AM
SirAndy   Well Mark, if that is SirAndy's -6 supposedly ...   May 10 2017, 11:52 AM
Tom_T   Well Mark, if that is SirAndy's -6 supposedly...   May 10 2017, 11:58 AM
burton73   This was my posting several years back. The holes ...   May 10 2017, 11:31 AM
Tom_T   Look folks - I really have no skin in this game - ...   May 10 2017, 11:50 AM
Tom_T   OK - I'm done & dunn wasting my time here ...   May 10 2017, 12:00 PM
SirAndy   I'm done & dunn wasting my time here Thank...   May 10 2017, 01:39 PM
Tom_T   One more clarification for those reading here who ...   May 10 2017, 12:48 PM
gereed75   Hmmm. Call me #379 and confused. no charcoal canis...   May 10 2017, 01:58 PM
euro911   Come on boys and girls ... there's more import...   May 10 2017, 02:16 PM
McMark   WTF! :blink: Tom... I've seen the car in ...   May 11 2017, 07:19 AM
euro911   Deja Vu :confused: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   May 11 2017, 07:51 PM
clapeza   My '70 -4, 4702911888, mfg date 8/70 has holes...   May 13 2017, 07:43 PM
gms   I am hijacking this thread to get people to shows ...   May 14 2017, 02:52 PM
flippa   poo-poo? Really? How old are we today? 12? FYI...   May 14 2017, 09:17 PM
flippa   See what you started Garold? :D :poke: :ang...   May 14 2017, 09:20 PM


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