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post May 10 2005, 03:11 PM
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If timing the car (moving the dizzy) doesnt affect RPM at all (at idle) then wtf is going on? Usually it ranges from 500-1500 all across the board.....somebody help
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post May 10 2005, 03:16 PM
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get a timing light.

time it, and be done. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)
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post May 10 2005, 03:19 PM
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yeaqh i have one, but it makes no difference in sound, idle rpm or performance where the dizzy is.....do i have a vaccuum leak? is it running rich? how do i tell?
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post May 10 2005, 03:20 PM
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in fact the performance very sucks much
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post May 10 2005, 03:25 PM
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My advice to you? Marry a Porsche or VW mechanic. You seem to run into a lot of problems with your car and you should have one at your house all the time. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post May 10 2005, 03:29 PM
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Changing the timing DOES affect idle speed. Advancing will generally increase idle speed up to a point. Retarding will decrease idle speed right down to the point where the engine will stall.

If changing the timing DOESN'T affect idle speed, well...hm.

Set the timing to factory specs with the light. Rev the engine up to 3000 and make sure the timing actually advances. Past about 3500rpm, it should stop advancing. If there are other problems, you can at least eliminate timing as one of the causes.

Is this EFI or carbs?
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post May 10 2005, 03:42 PM
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D-Jet FI...and NO girl around here knows VWs....i'll check it out tonight.....it works great, just not too peppy like it used to be.
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post May 10 2005, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 10 2005, 02:42 PM)
D-Jet FI...and NO girl around here knows VWs....i'll check it out tonight.....it works great, just not too peppy like it used to be.

who said anything about "girls"??? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
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post May 10 2005, 03:50 PM
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yah miles said something like that last night...WTF? i'm straight. I have a girlfriend already.
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post May 10 2005, 03:57 PM
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Remove distributor cap and see if the advance mechanism is hanging up. If nothing else, you should be able to twist the dizzy guts to see shifting of the advance mechanism. I had a .050 become "fixed", and the accel was F L A T .
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post May 10 2005, 03:59 PM
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okay....i'll check that.. i completly forgot about that AND that will probably affect the response to turning the dizzy.....what should i oil the mechanism with....? Light machine oil or motor oil?
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post May 10 2005, 04:02 PM
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Dolphin wax
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post May 10 2005, 04:05 PM
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why do you use dolphin wax? do the goats like that better?
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post May 10 2005, 04:12 PM
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No, the goat likes duck butter.


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hijacked his son's thread.....


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post May 10 2005, 04:17 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif) miles are you coming to louisville on the 22nd?
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QUOTE (bd1308 @ May 10 2005, 01:59 PM)
okay....i'll check that.. i completly forgot about that AND that will probably affect the response to turning the dizzy.....what should i oil the mechanism with....? Light machine oil or motor oil?

Theoretically, dielectric grease. However, motor oil will do. Dolphin wax just gums up the works, and duck butter is an electrical insulator, so the whole thing would stop working entirely.

Check the timing and advance with a light first. If you see the timing change as you rev the engine, the advance mechanism isn't stuck. Check to see that it advances enough. It it appears stuck, or it doesn't advance enough, then check the advance weights.
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post May 10 2005, 04:22 PM
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i have both...i'll use dielectric grease then, cause i believe its a water insulator
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Hmmmmm, I thought the standard was KY Warming Gel......makes things slide easy and gives you that warm fuzzzy feeling.

What do ducks and goats know anyway?
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