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914fun
post May 21 2017, 05:12 PM
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This number is on the side off a motor I have: SI 12 004.101.102A 10 0 22H. Can I tell what motor it is with this number? I need to know if it is a 1.7 or a 1.8. also this number is on one head: 171158.
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post May 22 2017, 11:23 AM
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The punched numbers you have in the photos above appear to be done by a shop, probably meant to keep all of the parts together during a rebuild. The numbers sticking out are casting numbers.

Neither have anything to do with the displacement of the engine.

You can find out the original displacement if you find the engine serial number on top of the engine. Many are on some of the webbing on top of the right case half (914 orientation) near the flywheel end. Some are in front of the oil filler tower. Serial numbers that start with "W", "EA", or "EB" are 1.7 engines. "EC" are 1.8 engines. "GA", "GB", and "GC" are 2.0 engines. All other codes were not originally installed in 914s.

The cylinders for the 1.7s were 90mm across. The 1.8s were 93mm, and the 2.0s were 94mm.

The register in the head where the top of the cylinder goes is 100mm across on the 1.7 heads. That same feature is 105mm across on the 1.8 and 2.0 heads. The 2.0s have spark plugs that tilt toward the outside of the engine, while the 1.7s and 1.8s (and all non-Porsche applications) have plugs that stand straight up. The 2.0 heads also have three studs holding the intake runner pipes onto the heads, the others all have four studs.

I do not believe that any of the engines had "step studs" (different sizes on each end) installed on the exhaust ports from the factory. They are a popular modification to make when a stud gets stripped or broken, and are available from many engine supply places.

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914fun   identifying motor and heads   May 21 2017, 05:12 PM
green914   Show us a picture of the motor / heads.   May 21 2017, 05:56 PM
914fun   Show us a picture of the motor / heads.   May 21 2017, 06:16 PM
914fun   Show us a picture of the motor / heads. This i...   May 21 2017, 06:31 PM
Joe Ricard   We could only tell you what the motor started out ...   May 21 2017, 06:07 PM
914fun   We could only tell you what the motor started out...   May 21 2017, 06:13 PM
914fun   My mechanic did some pressure testing late on frid...   May 21 2017, 06:45 PM
r_towle   The engine serial number is on the top of the case...   May 21 2017, 08:11 PM
Dave_Darling   The punched numbers you have in the photos above a...   May 22 2017, 11:23 AM
HAM Inc   The 1.8's came from the factory with M9-M8 ste...   May 22 2017, 04:06 PM
914fun   wow, lots of great info. just what i needed. gre...   May 23 2017, 01:06 PM
914fun   just a update. I took it apart and the cans do no...   May 26 2017, 09:16 AM
914fun   RE: identifying motor and heads   May 26 2017, 09:24 AM
914fun   RE: identifying motor and heads   May 26 2017, 09:27 AM
914fun   RE: identifying motor and heads   May 26 2017, 09:28 AM
914fun   RE: identifying motor and heads   May 26 2017, 09:32 AM
914fun   you can see by the last pic at the can was juuust ...   May 26 2017, 09:37 AM
914fun   That the can not at the can. Sorry i should revie...   May 26 2017, 09:39 AM
HAM Inc   Those are 1.8 chambers. They should have 105mm reg...   May 26 2017, 03:36 PM


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