Window adjustments, Seals not aligning with the window Options

[North Coast Jim]

The project Scarecrow is coming down to the finish line. Being a Scarecrow we've had to source many parts that were not on the car as sold originally. The Barn Find having been picked clean as a parts donor over the years. Couldn't pass up a 25 year old rust free shell, a 74 2L, and the rest is history. There was No rust on this shell and all the original seam sealer is intact. Original battery tray too. Hell hole is a sight to admire nothing but dust here. I see no evidence of any sheet metal work having been done. Car is straight in all respects.

Car is running but one of the last items to complete is to add the seals around both roll up windows inclusive of the seal at the top as part of the removable targa top. I've been at this for over a week now and no amount of reading posts on World, reviewing the Haynes manual or other sources of information has gotten me any closer to a solution. I provide a few pics. The B pillar seems to be too forward at the base and not tall enough at the top. I can see light at the rubber cap fitting at the top. Tried to capture it one of the pics. With the window rolled up all the way there is a gap to the targa top seal of about 1/4". It doesn't even come close. No amount of adjustment gets me any closer. I'm using 914 Rubber seals exclusively.

I've read where are there are a couple different targa top types. Are there differences in the top at to the top of the door window ?? Has the track that hold the seal ever been shimmed moving it down toward the top of the window. What about the B pillar ?? Are there different lengths and mounting styles ?? Top of door gap is larger then elsewhere. Don't think plays in the problem and again no amount of adjustment gets this gap minimized.

Any other suggestions for me. This is frustrating. By the way I hope to have this car at the Stoddard's swap meet June 4th. 100 mile drive an a fresh rebuild. Hope it doesn't rain.

[mgphoto]

Look closely at your first photo, the rubber cap on the vertical guide is not sitting flush on the front of the guide, seems the cap is tilting and not letting the seal sit flush. The lower guide attachment, the one that allows you to move the top of the window in or out is slotted, so fixing the position of the cap and pulling the guide lower adjustment rearward should make the vent window fit flush with the seal.
Do you have a photo of the window and seal at the sail plane?
Mike

[North Coast Jim]

Look closely at your first photo, the rubber cap on the vertical guide is not sitting flush on the front of the guide, seems the cap is tilting and not letting the seal sit flush. The lower guide attachment, the one that allows you to move the top of the window in or out is slotted, so fixing the position of the cap and pulling the guide lower adjustment rearward should make the vent window fit flush with the seal.
Do you have a photo of the window and seal at the sail plane?
Mike

Thanks Mike for the input. To answer your question I had one hell of a time getting the triangle windows into the seal and then get them into the door/B pillar. Ended up using packaging tape wrapping the window around the B Pillar and assy the cap with the screws in an attempt to hold it in place. The cap has two screws and they fit into thru holes on the top of the B Pillar. There are no slots for any vertical adjustment. The slight difference between the cap and the top of the B Pillar is the result of the assy of the window seal at the base, that is into the top of the door. The window wants to move vertically upward. It took massive muscle and a ton of soapy water along with Mother Natures abundant sunshine to heat everything up to get to this point. The assy tends to push the triangle window up putting stress on the cap - as you see. I've seen many 914's with the cap askew like this one. Don't know if it is a cause of my current situation but don't believe so.
Still fighting this issue

[914_teener]

Look closely at your first photo, the rubber cap on the vertical guide is not sitting flush on the front of the guide, seems the cap is tilting and not letting the seal sit flush. The lower guide attachment, the one that allows you to move the top of the window in or out is slotted, so fixing the position of the cap and pulling the guide lower adjustment rearward should make the vent window fit flush with the seal.
Do you have a photo of the window and seal at the sail plane?
Mike

Thanks Mike for the input. To answer your question I had one hell of a time getting the triangle windows into the seal and then get them into the door/B pillar. Ended up using packaging tape wrapping the window around the B Pillar and assy the cap with the screws in an attempt to hold it in place. The cap has two screws and they fit into thru holes on the top of the B Pillar. There are no slots for any vertical adjustment. The slight difference between the cap and the top of the B Pillar is the result of the assy of the window seal at the base, that is into the top of the door. The window wants to move vertically upward. It took massive muscle and a ton of soapy water along with Mother Natures abundant sunshine to heat everything up to get to this point. The assy tends to push the triangle window up putting stress on the cap - as you see. I've seen many 914's with the cap askew like this one. Don't know if it is a cause of my current situation but don't believe so.
Still fighting this issue

I had this same problem when I did my drivers side vent window seal.

While Mark did a great job producing this part....the assembly of this is TOTALLY logic dependent for a good outcome.

I too had to wait until it was warmer to fix it. I"m going to do a thread when I do the passenger side for others. When the top cap wouldn't align correctly with the Targa seal I'd found that I had installed the adjustment nut on the wrong side of the door and had to do the whole thing over again.

I don't know if this helps you now, but I installed everything including the metal brackets with the vent window and seals as an assembly, and like you, used packing tape to hold the whole mess together. I tapped the assembly in slowly from the rear corner and once seated used a pilot to line up the retainer brackets for the window. Once the B Pillar was bolted in correctly ( 2nd time was the charm) I could adjust it so that the corner would seat correctly on the top seal. It should adjust in an "arc". This is a concurrent....meaning before you tighten the retainer brackets completely. That is important to know.

Maybe the adjustment nut is installed incorrectly? Post a pic.

Hope this helps.