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> camber settings, What are you guys running?
914dave
post May 25 2017, 10:47 AM
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Won't be long til we're off to alignment and corner balance. The car is mostly street use and probably a monthly autocross. 21mm bars up front and 180# adjustable coilovers in the rear. 23mm front sway bar and the front spindles are raised 19mm. Torque bias limited slip and a stock rear sway bar.
Are you guys running stock settings? I don't mind a little more aggressive but it's not an all out competition car. I'll sacrifice a little more tire wear for performance. What have you guys run that works?
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Mark Henry
post Jun 28 2017, 07:29 AM
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What do you guys think about doing your own alignments?
There's real cheap tools for setting camber or you could set up something that uses a tilt box.
Toe in is easy to make a fixture to do that.

I'm asking because I have 4 cars that will need alignment soon and I do at least 1-3 cars a year. The shops are all 60+ minute round trips, up to a couple hours there minimum, so by time I get back a better part of the day is shot.
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post Jun 28 2017, 07:32 AM
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 28 2017, 09:29 AM) *

What do you guys think about doing your own alignments?
there's real cheap tools for setting camber or you could set up something that uses a tilt box.
Toe in is easy to make a fixture to do that.

I'm asking because I have 4 cars that will need alignment soon and I do at least 1-3 cars a year. The shops are all 60+ minute round trips, up to a couple hours there minimum, so by time I get home a better part of the day is shot.


with even simply tools this is very easy to do... however and this is the big however, you must have a flat working surface otherwise it's not going to work and this is why I had Chris do mine..
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with even simply tools this is very easy to do... however and this is the big however, you must have a flat working surface otherwise it's not going to work and this is why I had Chris do mine..


Yep, I was thinking about that because my floor isn't perfect. My idea on that is bolt plates to the floor in the four corners that are perfectly level. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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QUOTE(Mark Henry @ Jun 28 2017, 06:47 AM) *

Yep, I was thinking about that because my floor isn't perfect. My idea on that is bolt plates to the floor in the four corners that are perfectly level. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


Linoleum tiles. (Or other thin-ish floor tiles.) Use a nice tube level (tube with colored water in it) to figure out how much height has to be added to the floor in each spot. You can even paint the number of tiles on the spot on the floor so you don't have to measure every time. The tiles are tough and stack to give you a decent amount of leveling.

Put driver-equivalent weight in the driver's seat. Especially if you're a big guy like many of us.

Strings are a little bit of a pain to set up--mostly getting the reference to the actual centerline correct--but are dead-nuts simple once they are set. If you're going to be aligning one car a whole lot, it can be worth it to build fixtures that attach to the car itself that hold the strings. Still useful, but less guaranteed to be precise, on other cars of that model.

Measuring camber is easy. Caster is the tough one, and usually you'd just measure camber change as the steering wheel is turned a specific amount.

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914dave   camber settings   May 25 2017, 10:47 AM
Dave_Darling   A starting point: -1.5 camber rear. -1.0 camber f...   May 25 2017, 02:26 PM
okieflyr   Dave, Do you have someone in mind to do the alignm...   May 25 2017, 04:24 PM
914dave   Dave, Do you have someone in mind to do the align...   May 25 2017, 04:27 PM
okieflyr   You might want to talk to Bill Sherwood @ CSE in O...   May 25 2017, 04:44 PM
914dave   I'm familiar with Bill, Dion has actually used...   May 26 2017, 04:15 AM
Racer Chris   I don't like to use more than 3/4 degree negat...   May 26 2017, 04:40 AM
914dave   I don't like to use more than 3/4 degree nega...   May 26 2017, 06:10 AM
HalfMoon   I've recently found a Porsche shop here in the...   Jun 26 2017, 10:55 AM
914dave   I've recently found a Porsche shop here in th...   Jun 26 2017, 11:24 AM
Racer Chris   ... Chris, please chim in! I would follow t...   Jun 26 2017, 11:55 AM
HalfMoon   ... Chris, please chim in! I would follow ...   Jun 26 2017, 01:27 PM
LowBridge   ... Chris, please chim in! I would follow ...   Jun 28 2017, 06:26 AM
HalfMoon   I've recently found a Porsche shop here in th...   Jun 29 2017, 03:17 PM
Dave_Darling   For a track car, the usual rule of thumb is ...   Jun 26 2017, 05:35 PM
HalfMoon   For a track car, the usual rule of thumb is ...   Jun 26 2017, 07:28 PM
plays with cars   For me the cars have always been driven on the str...   Jun 27 2017, 11:43 PM
Racer Chris   ... Depending on how many miles you'll be put...   Jun 28 2017, 07:08 AM
larryM   For me the cars have always been driven on the st...   Jun 28 2017, 03:20 PM
Mark Henry   What do you guys think about doing your own alignm...   Jun 28 2017, 07:29 AM
LowBridge   What do you guys think about doing your own align...   Jun 28 2017, 07:32 AM
Mark Henry   with even simply tools this is very easy to do.....   Jun 28 2017, 07:47 AM
Dave_Darling   Yep, I was thinking about that because my floor i...   Jun 28 2017, 12:32 PM
Mark Henry   [quote name='Mark Henry' post='2501101' date='Jun...   Jun 29 2017, 06:15 AM
914_teener   What do you guys think about doing your own align...   Jun 28 2017, 07:50 AM
Dave_Darling   I think you meant front toe-out to improve turn-in...   Jun 29 2017, 12:21 AM
jmitro   I think you meant front toe-out to improve turn-i...   Jun 29 2017, 06:00 AM
Dave_Darling   I have heard from folks on the Bird Board that the...   Jun 29 2017, 12:10 PM
Mark Henry   I have heard from folks on the Bird Board that th...   Jun 29 2017, 03:26 PM
Travis Neff   There's someone selling a real set of corner w...   Jun 29 2017, 03:34 PM
larryM   a chart in Porsche's 1972 Info for Sports Purp...   Jul 2 2017, 04:57 PM
HalfMoon   That above compilation was/is quite helpful inform...   Jul 2 2017, 08:01 PM


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