OT- Ford Triton woes, plugs blew out Options

[guywan914]

Has anyone heard of problems with the triton v-8 blowing the plugs out of the heads? I have had two different trucks F-250, E-350 where with no warning the #2 on one and
#3 on the other blew the plugs right out of the head . Ford is no help because the trucks have 56000 and 95000 miles on them. Tech at Ford garage said they developed a special repair for this {Helicoil or Threadsert} and that just sounded like there has been a lot more than just my two trucks.

[MecGen]

Hello
You can add me down for one, on #3 cyl.
I use a insert/kit to repair these threds, just hard to get started strait.
I have changed a butload of coils...
Coils are a problem, not blowing out plugs, apart fom me and you ? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)
I always thought it was the case of beer, while I was changing the plugs (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/drunk.gif)
Later
Joe

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[ChrisFoley]

I 've never had a problem with a spark plug in a Ford but I have a Helicoil Kit for repairing T4 spark plug holes without disassembly.

[joea9146]

I have herd this before, Do a google search I am sure u will see lots of hits related to this.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif)

[Mueller]

140,000 miles on my '01 5.4 Triton, no problems

[kafermeister]

Just hit 70,000 last week on my '01 4.6 Sueprcrew. I haven't heard of this before but then again, I don't hang out on any Ford boards. guywan914, have the plugs been changed on your trucks at least one time prior to this failure? I seem to remember some nonsense about 100k mile plugs. I wonder if having the old plugs longer than what we used to do in the old days plays a factor.

R

[Mueller]

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I seem to remember some nonsense about 100k mile plugs

I didn't change my plugs until I had 103K miles on the truck, plugs looked halfway decent.....

[bd1308]

QUOTE (Racer Chris @ May 14 2005, 05:31 AM)

I 've never had a problem with a spark plug in a Ford but I have a Helicoil Kit for repairing T4 spark plug holes without disassembly.

pm me with details, this will save me lots...also need some helicoil or inserts for my exhaust studs on the heads....thx

[kafermeister]

QUOTE (Mueller @ May 16 2005, 12:11 AM)

QUOTE I seem to remember some nonsense about 100k mile plugs I didn't change my plugs until I had 103K miles on the truck, plugs looked halfway decent.....

That's good to hear Mike. I had planned to change mine prior to the 100k mark but it's good to know I may be ok if I dont' get arround to it before then.

[Maltese Falcon]

coil packs YES on the '99...plugs not an issue. The '05 has a noisy rear end (3:73 lsd) going in for warranty, no plug problems. We will see if the Roush blower yanks some plugs out (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)

[muddboy]

Its bound to happen to all of them.... my last job was next to a Ford dealer, and I heard my share of 'em. Now at my current shop we do mostly mustangs but a few trucks. The automotive repair industry has come up with many fixes for this problem. The repair is simple if you can get the right parts, the problem is that ford went and made a really bad design for the plug and normal "heli-coil" and "timeserts" wont work even ones made for "sparkplugs". If your going to just repair the one then you have to use one that works with the normal oem sparkplug. Or what we do is repair all of them with the timesert style and use another redily available plug (champion R9YC *performance plug*).

[guywan914]

The plugs on the two trucks have never been changed, although the trucks do get regular maintaince at the local Ford dealer. Maltese Falcon I have heard that the head design was changed for 2005[we have one F-250 of that vintage], but also know of one Lighting that the guy had a large supercharger on and he has blown out three.

[Mueller]

QUOTE (Maltese Falcon @ May 15 2005, 10:20 PM)

The '05 has a noisy rear end (3:73 lsd) going in for warranty, no plug problems.

only warrenty related item I took my truck back to Ford was for the pinion bearings in the rear diff (same specs as yours)....truck had 95K miles on it at the time......luckly we had the extended warr., otherwise it would have cost $1300...ouch....

[brer]

if you change them yourself, and not torque them right then they can start to unwind and eventually blow out.

I have done this. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)

[Steve]

I had a Ford Expedition with a 4.6liter V8 in it.
It also ejected a spark plug.
The spark plugs were never changed in my expedition and were installed by the factory.
This is a common problem thats not covered by the extended warrranty.
Go to google and type in ford expedition blowing spark plugs.
You will be surprised how many people got screwed by the junk they produce.
Its also amazing how they don't stand behind there products. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/bs.gif)
I quickly traded my POS for a Toyota Sequoia.

[914werke]

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So my 05 F150 w/Triton 5.4 has had a problem for a bit that originally thought was a trans going south, (Bucking at low RPM steady state increase in throttle) but upon investigation was determined to be a bad coil or coils.
So I milked it for a few K miles as I knew it was near time to do the 100K plug replacement routine & fugured Id replace the coils at same time.
Decided to do it over this winters break, followed all the suggested procedures to avoid breaking the danm things bit NOOOOOooooo, 1st one tried SNAP.
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this is gonna be a long day or two. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)

[Rand]

Wow, blast from the past. Remember bd1308? Where is Britt these days? Anyone know? Sorry Rich, you drug it up. ;p

[76-914]

Common problem. My mechanic charged me $300 including the tow charge. Don't go to Ford. They include the charge for removing and lifting the body off the frame to access (on vans). The frigging heads only have 4 threads for the plugs. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif)

[r_towle]

If you had never taken out the plugs, they would have stayed in.

The issue, from what my son has told me....and he has fixed quite a few, is when changing the plugs, this can loosen the threaded insert which then allows the plugs to blow out, sometimes damaging the hood.

There is a special tool to change the plugs.
It comes in a kit with a special tool to fix the problem of blown out plugs.

Obviously it happens a lot considering they make tools for this.

[Rand]

Rich, what's that tool? I mean, plugs have threads. What does the tool do? I could see some sort of de-sticking penetration solution first, but... A special tool to unscrew a plug? Yeah, that's what the dealer is selling.