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> Won't start! Will start if I coast down hill and pop clutch!
Ian Stott
post Jul 1 2017, 05:18 AM
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As described! What is up with this situation? Engine runs beautiful when warmed up, will restart no problem if It has been shut off for even a few hours. Kudos to the battery and starter as I have tried to start it normally when it has been sitting for a few days, won't catch, thank goodness I live on a hill, coast down the hill a bit, put her in 3rd gear pop the clutch and vrooom! Have done this 6 times now!

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post Jul 3 2017, 09:03 PM
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So it doesn't start when cold but will start if you push/coast start it?

What are the differences in both methods?

Engine speed:
Starter: slow
Coast: slow

Ok, so engine speed should not be the issue.

Extra fuel when cranking:
Starter: YES, the ECU extends the injector pulses to put in more fuel when cranking.
Coast: NO, the ECU sets injector pulse width by temp of engine/ambient/CHT

Here's a difference, pulse width during cranking may be flooding the engine. Maybe not. Does the engine run rich? Have you had the AFR checked?

Voltage at coil:
Starter: Voltage at coil will be lowered by IR drops in the wiring applying less voltage at the coil.
Coast: Voltage should be close to battery voltage since starter is not cranking.

Check the voltage at the coil with a voltmeter when cranking. Measure from coil + wire to engine case ground, not the battery ground. Also, pull a plug wire and install a spare plug on the wire and ground the plug and look for spark when cranking.
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Ian Stott   Won't start! Will start if I coast down hill and pop clutch!   Jul 1 2017, 05:18 AM
wndsrfr   As described! What is up with this situation?...   Jul 1 2017, 07:10 AM
Mark Henry   So is this the opposite of the hot start issue? St...   Jul 1 2017, 07:27 AM
Ian Stott   So is this the opposite of the hot start issue? S...   Jul 1 2017, 07:54 AM
draperjojo   I used to have to do this with an Opel GT. I rebui...   Jul 1 2017, 07:54 AM
Krieger   Is this carbed or injected. If it is injected, I ...   Jul 1 2017, 08:17 AM
Mark Henry   I wonder if the pertronix is crapping out. Check a...   Jul 1 2017, 08:20 AM
Ian Stott   I wonder if the pertronix is crapping out. Check ...   Jul 1 2017, 08:34 AM
ndfrigi   If this is F.I., try to push/pump the gas pedal 3 ...   Jul 1 2017, 08:46 AM
Ian Stott   If this is F.I., try to push/pump the gas pedal 3...   Jul 1 2017, 10:07 AM
Mark Henry   If this is F.I., try to push/pump the gas pedal 3...   Jul 1 2017, 10:42 AM
Mark Henry   Bit more info to help Ian out. We (and another gu...   Jul 1 2017, 11:05 AM
Mueller   Bit more info to help Ian out. We (and another g...   Jul 1 2017, 11:11 AM
Mark Henry   Is the flapper moving when trying to cold start...   Jul 1 2017, 12:31 PM
Ian Stott   Is the flapper moving when trying to cold star...   Jul 1 2017, 07:54 PM
Ian Stott   Ok, coasted down the hill at my house, put her in ...   Jul 3 2017, 06:25 PM
cuddyk   How long does it take to turn over when going down...   Jul 3 2017, 06:55 PM
type2man   How about spraying some fuel into the intake when ...   Jul 3 2017, 07:08 PM
r_towle   Vacuum leak   Jul 3 2017, 07:25 PM
Spoke   So it doesn't start when cold but will start i...   Jul 3 2017, 09:03 PM
Dave_Darling   How's the ignition switch? There have been so...   Jul 3 2017, 09:09 PM
Rand   Is it an issue of cranking over? If it turns at no...   Jul 3 2017, 09:57 PM
arne   I too wonder about the ignition switch. Hook up a ...   Jul 3 2017, 10:05 PM
falcor75   Whats the voltage drop on the battery while cranki...   Jul 4 2017, 02:30 AM
Mark Henry   Doubt if it's the battery itself, one year old...   Jul 4 2017, 01:13 PM
Ian Stott   Doubt if it's the battery itself, one year ol...   Jul 4 2017, 03:14 PM
Spoke   You'll need a helper but try taking a voltage ...   Jul 5 2017, 08:31 PM
Rand   It's not rocket science then. Swap out the bat...   Jul 4 2017, 06:25 PM
r_towle   Vacuum leaks prevent ljet from starting. The head ...   Jul 4 2017, 07:50 PM
Ian Stott   Turned the key to the on position, gave 3 good pum...   Jul 9 2017, 11:36 AM
ndfrigi   Turned the key to the on position, gave 3 good pu...   Jul 9 2017, 11:43 AM


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